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    "All of a sudden, the limited government, rule-of-law, free market principles that in many ways defined the Republic have been exposed as the obsession of a small elite. Voters want goodies. They don't care about abuses of executive power when they are aimed at the other side. They are indifferent to process when they happen to like the outcome.Trump, by accident or possibly in some idiot savant way, intuited these things. The others are rushing to catch up."

    - Daniel Hannan, MEP (Conservative)


    So far I've taken the view that Trump probably can't do much long-term damage, precisely because he's too ignorant and incompetent, and most normal people can see there's something badly wrong with him. Hannan's contention is that most people DON'T CARE. He thinks that Trump has permanemtly skewed the American Way (or latched on to a seismic shift that was already there). Is he right?

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    The voters want the most good for the most people.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    The voters want the most good for the most people.
    the voters wnat the most for themselves and if it happens to benefit others, so be it
    The war on crime, war on drugs, war on terror, and now the war on opiods.............there's a reason they call it a war. So you idiots will easily accept the collateral damage of innocents

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the voters wnat the most for themselves and if it happens to benefit others, so be it
    The president wants to benefit himself- and if it harms or benefit others- he couldn't give one squirt of runny shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    The president wants to benefit himself- and if it harms or benefit others- he couldn't give one squirt of runny shit!
    Right on target!

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    Trump is the only president in my lifetime who put the people first. That includes Reagan.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    "All of a sudden, the limited government, rule-of-law, free market principles that in many ways defined the Republic have been exposed as the obsession of a small elite. Voters want goodies. They don't care about abuses of executive power when they are aimed at the other side. They are indifferent to process when they happen to like the outcome.Trump, by accident or possibly in some idiot savant way, intuited these things. The others are rushing to catch up."

    - Daniel Hannan, MEP (Conservative)


    So far I've taken the view that Trump probably can't do much long-term damage, precisely because he's too ignorant and incompetent, and most normal people can see there's something badly wrong with him. Hannan's contention is that most people DON'T CARE. He thinks that Trump has permanemtly skewed the American Way (or latched on to a seismic shift that was already there). Is he right?
    Yes and no. Trump is mentally handicapped and, while he would like to be a dictator, he doesn't have the intelligence to actually take over a government the way Hitler did when he was given a government position. Trump is also notoriously lazy, which I see as a good thing. The less he does while president, the better.
    However, Trump is normalizing Fascism through his speeches and tweets. He's targeting people who will support ANY Republican president and he's showing them that in order to win, you need to act like a Fascist. This is extremely dangerous because, while Trump isn't smart enough to take over the country, who knows if they next Republican will be? Trump is redefining the Right and the GOP in an extremist way and that is what makes him dangerous.

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    Hello jimmymccready,

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    The voters want the most good for the most people.
    Voters didn't choose Trump. The electoral college did.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Trump is the only president in my lifetime who put the people first. That includes Reagan.
    And most of those people are members at Mar-A-Lago, simply because Trump has to drag them along for the ride to pump up his own wealth. Otherwise he would have no qualms about throwing them under the buss if it made him richer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    "All of a sudden, the limited government, rule-of-law, free market principles that in many ways defined the Republic have been exposed as the obsession of a small elite. Voters want goodies. They don't care about abuses of executive power when they are aimed at the other side. They are indifferent to process when they happen to like the outcome.Trump, by accident or possibly in some idiot savant way, intuited these things. The others are rushing to catch up."

    - Daniel Hannan, MEP (Conservative)


    So far I've taken the view that Trump probably can't do much long-term damage, precisely because he's too ignorant and incompetent, and most normal people can see there's something badly wrong with him. Hannan's contention is that most people DON'T CARE. He thinks that Trump has permanemtly skewed the American Way (or latched on to a seismic shift that was already there). Is he right?
    I think that idiots like $arah Palin paved the way for a failed-businessman-then-a-TV-game-show-host to become President. Like all idiots savant, the Grifter from Wasilla picked up on the underlying voter angst for easy answers to complex issues, sound bites, trappings of attractiveness and/or wealth (Melania plays the part of $arah these days), and belief that only if we get the right blustering bully in office we can Be Great Again. Because we weren't because of Black Guy president, you see. Hannan is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the voters wnat the most for themselves and if it happens to benefit others, so be it
    Now that is the truth, at least if the voters are selecting (R)s. And some (D)s too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Trump is the only president in my lifetime who put the people first. That includes Reagan.
    Bore da Celticguy. Trump only puts Trump first. That anyone else benefits is purely accidental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    Voters didn't choose Trump. The electoral college did.
    That's why they chose Clinton and not Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Trump is the only president in my lifetime who put the people first.
    Were you born yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the voters wnat the most for themselves and if it happens to benefit others, so be it
    That explains you. Do not presume to talk for all voters. Plenty of leftys are voting for clean air, land, and water. They care about saving the planet. I am for making college far cheaper even though my education and my sons are long paid for.
    You are describing what motivates your voting and right-wing voting.

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