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You don't care about determining what the root causes are, or doing anything about the behavior. Your entire focus is on guns. As I've said before, if we could get rid of all of the guns, we'd still have the behavior to deal with, and, most likely, just as many or more would die. But if we could do something about the behavior, the guns wouldn't matter.
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RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.
Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.
"When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016
The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
Originally Posted by Colin Powell
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
Typical stupid comment. Chopping off someone's arms would leave them almost completely helpless. Taking guns away, just removes one means, without doing anything about the problem of the behavior. There are plenty of alternate means. So, at best, you'll only slow him down a bit. And several of the alternate means are even more deadly.i would say "I'm sorry, but we can't actually do anything about what happened to your children because of the rampant paranoia about guns. If sanity ever returns, then we can try to do something that might actually help. "
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RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.
Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.
"When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016
The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
Originally Posted by Colin Powell
Well- off you go and enjoy head-butting your victims in the mall. Ta-ta.
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
Earl (08-18-2019)
Hello rjhenn,
Well then maybe you can poke around and learn if these stats were cherry-picked and not actually representative:
"In Indiana, the study found a 7.5 percent reduction in firearm suicides in the decade following the red flag law’s enactment. The link was less pronounced in Connecticut, at least initially. Gun suicides fell only 1.6 percent in the years after the law’s enactment, but enforcement of the law appeared to spike in 2007 following the mass shooting at Virginia Tech, leading to a 13.7 reduction in firearm suicides from 2007 to 2015."
HuffPo
The article refers to this study
Do we have conflicting information so we can each find ample red meat for our own confirmation bias?
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Earl (08-18-2019)
You appear to be focused on firearm suicides. I was looking at the figures for total suicide. If a red flag law takes away their guns, but they still commit suicide, was the law a success? I've seen people argue that if they didn't suicide with a gun, then the law was a success. I don't understand the 'logic' behind that view of things.
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RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.
Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.
"When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016
The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
Originally Posted by Colin Powell
RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.
Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.
"When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016
The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
Originally Posted by Colin Powell
RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.
Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.
"When I am president I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf" Donald J. Trump, world class snake oil salesman and compulsive golfer August 2016
The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
Originally Posted by Colin Powell
Hello rjhenn,
Ah, OK. I see. Thanks for the distinction. So we are talking about two very different data sets.
The logic is that one form of suicide has been reduced and that is a good thing.
Your 'if' is a big IF. There is nothing to show that it is true because it is unknown if users of other forms of suicide ever considered using a gun. It's not like we can interview them.
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Earl (08-18-2019)
800,000 kids go missing every year
1200 is a drop in the bucket as far as misfortune goes
Neither statistic is wanted, but I'd be more concerned about missing kids and the pedo ring that was uncovered with Epstein. They had the power to kill him in jail. That should be more frightening to you. 800,000 kids a year!
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