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Thread: Trump Lied Again: Coal Train Will Not Roll Until Miners Made Whole. "No Pay We Stay."

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    Hello signalmankenneth,

    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Trump should pay these miners pay owed them, he is a billionaire??? It would boost his approval ratings among his base and others too?!! Come on Trump, just 11.8 million dollars, chump change for a billionaire?!! Melania spends that in a year on clothes! It would do a lot on making coal great again too?!!
    It would probably be worth it to him. But he would never do it. If any kind of payment comes to them besides the coal company it would be the taxpayers stuck with the bill. Maybe Congress should act?
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    Blackjewel LLC filed for bankruptcy July 1 owing $6 million to its 1,700 workers in Wyoming and Central Appalachia, including more than $4,000 in unpaid wages to Kentucky coal miner Chris Rowe in Cumberland.

    Blackjewel also owed $32 million in loans to Riverstone Holdings, an international investment firm that manages $39 billion in capital.

    Guess who is likely to get paid in coming weeks.

    Riverstone is listed in bankruptcy court filings as the “super-priority senior secured debtor-in-possession,” with a lien on Blackjewel assets currently being sold for millions of dollars. It was Riverstone that wrote that contractual description of itself when it made its first $28 million loan to Blackjewel two years ago, putting it at the top of the heap today, according to court filings.

    Riverstone enjoyed such a strong position that when it made a second loan to Blackjewel for $5 million, two days after the July 1 bankruptcy filing, it was able to demand the resignation of Blackjewel chief executive Jeff Hoops and all members of Hoops’ family. (Hoops has blamed Riverstone for forcing his company into bankruptcy by refusing to extend repayment terms for the 2017 loan.)

    “It looks like Riverstone should emerge from this virtually unscathed,” said Clark Williams-Derry, an energy industry finance analyst for the Sightline Institute in Seattle.

    “As for everyone else — the bottom line is, the workers, the vendors, the government agencies, all of the other creditors that are still owed millions, they’ll be left at the end of the line fighting for scraps,” Williams-Derry said. “The American bankruptcy system right now favors the financiers. That’s just the way our laws are written.”"

    Unlike miners, this lender to emerge from Blackjewel bankruptcy ‘virtually unscathed’
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    The coal company has compassion - for the big money investors, not the miners.

    "As angry coal miners continued to block a set of railroad tracks in Harlan County Friday, the miners’ former employer, Blackjewel LLC., sought a court order to let a disputed coal train pass through the blockade.

    Read more here: https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article234307937.html#storylink=cpy"

    Blackjewel seeks court order to move disputed coal train as miner protest continues
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump says 'the coal industry is back.' The government's jobs numbers say otherwise.

    "The protest, which has remained peaceful, began Monday after a train was seen going onto property of Blackjewel, the mine operator that filed for bankruptcy without warning on July 1.
    Word quickly spread through the community around Cumberland, a town of about 2,200 in Harlan County in southeastern Kentucky. Dozens of miners began showing up to block the tracks -- angry that they mined the coal, but didn't get paid for the work.

    "We're doing without money, food and everything else before our kids are starting back to school. We can't even get clothes or nothing else for them, so it was like a kick in the face," miner Chris Rowe told CNN affiliate WYMT. "That's basically what it was."

    "We get our money, this load of coal that's on this train can go by," miner Shane Smith told WYMT. "But until then, there'll be no trains coming in, there'll be no trains going out," "

    "A CSX train remains blocked my #blackjewelprotest as it sits fully loaded on a Harlan County railroad track. The miners insist they’re not moving until they get paid."

    ""The miners showed up [for work] one day and the gates were locked with no notice," the mayor said."

    No Pay We Stay

    Sad story, hopefully they get paid....... This is the kinda misery that is caused & the rip-offs that occur when a company does a "strategic" filing like that..

    The old days the governor would have sent out the national guard for target practice..

    THIS IS ONE OF TRUMPS PROTECTED GROUPS, SO MAYBE HE WILL TAKE UP FOR THEM AGAINST THIS COMPANY DOING WHAT HE HAS DONE OH SO MANY TIMES...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Of course.....the 4-5% rate of unemployment in these coal producing states....down from the 9-10% realized over the entire length of a BHO administration, IS JUST AN ILLUSION. The left wing propaganda is real, it must be, THE PEOPLE never rejected failed democrat policies, TRUMP only won because of RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA....just like Mueller proved,...err..my bad, Mueller could not prove, but a democrat congress is GOING TO PROVE at some time in the future when they are finished LOOKING for a crime to pin on the Teflon Don.

    Left wing propaganda did not work in 2016...what makes you assume anything has changed in the new world of instant communication where the propaganda can be debunked as soon as it appears? The mainstream media......the propaganda wing of the DNC, no longer controls with a monopoly the talking points. Research and instant messaging is just a mouse click away. The DINO days of the BIG 3 are over, forever EXTINCT. The talking heads like "CRONKITE" can no longer dictate state policy simply by presenting their one sided opinions.

    The Vietnam War is the only war in history where the US never lost a single battle they engaged....but lost the war effort due to media interference. If the CRONKITES of the world had been allowed free reign in WW2......after the 1st day of media reporting at Normandy.....the US would have withdrawn and we the people would be speaking English as a second language right now...with Deutsch/German being the primary state language.
    Stop rattling your yap & just say if you are w/ trump's miners or the coal company........

    It is really sad that some in our country have more trust & respect for foreign adversarial leaders than our own loyal opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    trump country, so where is Mitch?
    Moscow is probably home counting his money..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump says 'the coal industry is back.' The government's jobs numbers say otherwise.

    "The protest, which has remained peaceful, began Monday after a train was seen going onto property of Blackjewel, the mine operator that filed for bankruptcy without warning on July 1.
    Word quickly spread through the community around Cumberland, a town of about 2,200 in Harlan County in southeastern Kentucky. Dozens of miners began showing up to block the tracks -- angry that they mined the coal, but didn't get paid for the work.

    "We're doing without money, food and everything else before our kids are starting back to school. We can't even get clothes or nothing else for them, so it was like a kick in the face," miner Chris Rowe told CNN affiliate WYMT. "That's basically what it was."

    "We get our money, this load of coal that's on this train can go by," miner Shane Smith told WYMT. "But until then, there'll be no trains coming in, there'll be no trains going out," "

    "A CSX train remains blocked my #blackjewelprotest as it sits fully loaded on a Harlan County railroad track. The miners insist they’re not moving until they get paid."

    ""The miners showed up [for work] one day and the gates were locked with no notice," the mayor said."

    No Pay We Stay

    You can really see who loves the coal miners.... Scum like ralph laugh @ their plight & trump has yet to send his tweets........

    Bernie Sanders sends pizza to miners blocking coal train

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    Hello Bill,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Sad story, hopefully they get paid....... This is the kinda misery that is caused & the rip-offs that occur when a company does a "strategic" filing like that..

    The old days the governor would have sent out the national guard for target practice..

    THIS IS ONE OF TRUMPS PROTECTED GROUPS, SO MAYBE HE WILL TAKE UP FOR THEM AGAINST THIS COMPANY DOING WHAT HE HAS DONE OH SO MANY TIMES...


    Yeah, he could run the debt up even higher bailing them out like he had to bail out American soybean farms impacted by his completely unnecessary trade war.
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    Amy McGrath is kicking Moscow Mitch to the curb...…...he's f'n tosat

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    Hi Bill,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    You can really see who loves the coal miners.... Scum like ralph laugh @ their plight & trump has yet to send his tweets........

    Bernie Sanders sends pizza to miners blocking coal train
    Right on Bernie!
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    LOL, a lil greasy pepperoni rubbed in trump's wounds.........

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    Well now that Canada has exposed the fraud regarding CO2, cial can resume it's role.
    Just because you don't understand it does not make it bad. Celticguy

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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Well now that Canada has exposed the fraud regarding CO2, cial can resume it's role.
    That's just myth-clinging. Everybody wishes it was a fraud or a trick or a hoax. That would be so awesome if it was just some big trick. It's not. It's real. More and more people are getting it. Sooner or later you will too. The best thing that could happen to that coal would be to dump it back into the mine and seal it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    That's just myth-clinging. Everybody wishes it was a fraud or a trick or a hoax. That would be so awesome if it was just some big trick. It's not. It's real. More and more people are getting it. Sooner or later you will too. The best thing that could happen to that coal would be to dump it back into the mine and seal it up.
    If it were real why would Michael Mann refuse (yet again) to release his data ? Its going to cost him considerably more than just losing face. He got tagged for the defendant's legal fees and a counter suit is being prepared now.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    If it were real why would Michael Mann refuse (yet again) to release his data ? Its going to cost him considerably more than just losing face. He got tagged for the defendant's legal fees and a counter suit is being prepared now.
    I know nothing about that case so I am not in a position to argue about it. I trust the major media to break the story if there is anything significant to it. What I do understand is that the best place for that trainload of coal would be back in the ground.
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