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Thread: Iceland makes plaque to Okjökull, the first glacier lost to global warming.

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    “No Glaciers In Europe” – During The Recently Erased Medieval Warm Period

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    https://realclimatescience.com/2017/...l-warm-period/

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    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    “No Glaciers In Europe” – During The Recently Erased Medieval Warm Period

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    A site for morons featuring a moronic article authored by a moron and posted here by another one. Haw, haw...........................................haw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Icelandics ? What do THEY know about glaciers ?

    Tune up the Denier Choir

    Haw, haw............................................haw .
    The earth and its climate are changing...and they are changing fast.

    It just makes sense to reduce and restrict the burning of fossil fuels, and no amount of rabid Climate Denial is ever going to change that simple equation.

    On a sidebar, I was about a heart beat away from choosing to specialize in glaciology in grad school. At this point, I do not think it is a good career move for an aspiring earth scientist - a lot of these glaciers might be gone or severely reduced in a few decades.

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    Growing Iceland, Greenland glaciers make scientists gasp

    It appears that Iceland won’t have to be renamed Tepidlandia anytime soon after all. According to researchers at the University of Iceland, each of the country’s glaciers will expand this year for the first time in the past 25 years. As reported in Electroverse, the Hofsjökull, Langjökull, Mýrdalsjökull, and Vatnajökull glaciers have expanded over the last twelve months, from autumn to autumn, “With Mýrdalsjökull showing a really significant addition of ice this year.” ,.These are the largest glaciers in Iceland: Hofsjökull is third largest after Vatnajökull and Langjökull, while Mýrdalsjökull is the country’s fourth largest ice cap.

    The research study project manager, Finnur Pálsson, observed that he regarded the reversal to be “unusual.” He noted that Langjökull had been losing around one and a half meters of ice per year for the past 20 years, “but in the last few years he has been close to zero, that is, he has neither expanded nor diminished. And that applies to this year, both for Vatnajökull and Langjökull as well.”

    So why is this happening?

    Careful to avoid a politically-incorrect narrative contradicting “global warming” mantra, Pálsson simply observed, “It is a fact that it has been colder the last few years. And there was more snowfall in August on the upper part of Langjökull, which is very unusual.®%©”Well maybe not quite so unusual after all. As I recently reported in my April 22 column, Jakobshavn — the previously fastest-flowing, fastest-thinning glacier on Greenland’s west coast — has reversed course as well.

    Jakobshavn has represented the largest source of Greenland’s ice mass loss over the last 20 years, and has produced about 10 percent of the country’s icebergs. A study published in the March issue of the journal Nature stated, “Here we use airborne altimetry and satellite imagery to show that since 2016, Jakobshavn has been re-advancing, slowing and thickening. We link these changes to current cooling in ocean waters in Disko Bay that spill over into Ilulissat Icefjord. Ocean temperatures in the bay’s upper 250 meters have cooled to levels not seen since the mid-1980s.”

    Again, scientists registered surprise. As reported in Live Science, lead study researcher Ala Khazendar at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory said, “At first we didn’t believe it. We had pretty much assumed that Jakobshavn would just keep going on as it had over the last 20 years.”
    A short sojourn into Greenland’s temperature history might have provided an obvious clue. The reason that Jakobshavn isn’t shrinking is very likely is due to an entirely natural periodic warm-cold phase shift in the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) which occurs in the northern Atlantic Ocean every 20 or 30 years.

    Nevertheless, a study reported in the May 2012 issue of the journal Science observed that individual Greenland glaciers expand and contract for complex reasons. Observations of 200 glaciers between 2000-2010 revealed behaviors that varied both in location and time. Glaciers with growth rates found to be accelerating during a few years, decelerated in others. Some accelerating glaciers were in proximity to others that were decelerating.

    Carl Allon who authored the Electroverse article offers a very rational theory regarding why Greenland and Iceland have gained about 45 percent more ice mas that “normal” over the past three years at a time when global carbon dioxide levels have risen. He suggests, as do others who are familiar with the subject, that we can look to the sun for answers to the mystery. Allon cites research by Prof. Valentina Zharkova from Northumbria University in the UK indicating that our star has just exited a “Modern Maximum”—a 30-or-so year period of high solar activity — and is now on the slide back down to a prolonged period of cooling.

    Speaking last October at the Global Warming Policy Foundation, Dr. Zharkova predicted that by about 2020 we are likely to be in for a new “Super Grand Solar Minimum” which will bring about a multi-decadal cold global temperature period similar to the “little ice age” between about 1300 and 1850. Zharkova’s model draws upon dynamo wave effects in two layers of the sun – one close to the surface, and the other deep within the convection zone. Both effecs have a frequency of about 11 years, yet which are slightly different with cycles that are slightly offset to each other in time.

    This pair of waves will become increasingly offset during solar cycle 24 which peaks in 2022, and will become exactly out of synch during the solar cycle 26 decade from 2030 to 2040. Valentina Zharkova has a good record of being right. Her models have run at 93 percent accuracy, and she was of very few to correctly predict that solar cycle 24 would be weaker than cycle 23. In any case, you might want to consider holding off putting that long flannel underwear on EBay just yet.

    https://www.cfact.org/2019/05/19/gro...ientists-gasp/
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    Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT)

    Background

    The Washington-DC-based Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) is a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization founded in 1985 by David Rothbard and Craig Rucker to pursue a free-market approach to environmental issues. CFACT describes their mission as “relentlessly infusing the environmental debate with a balanced perspective on environmental stewardship.” [1]

    According to their website, “Its co-founders, David Rothbard and Craig Rucker, believed very strongly that the power of the market combined with the applications of safe technologies could offer humanity practical solutions to many of the world’s pressing concerns.” [1]

    In 1989, Craig Rucker and David Rothbard approached the Chemical Manufacturers Association (CMA) requesting “corporate involvement and support.” According to CMA's documents, CFACT was established to “fight the Public Interest Research Groups (PIRG) and Ralph Nader-type organizations.” [42]

    SourceWatch also describes CFACT as the conservative answer to U.S. Public Interest Research Groups such as NYPIRG, ConnPIRG, and other progressive organizations lobbying for environmental issues. [23]

    The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow was highlighted in a paper by Yale University's Dr. Justin Farrell. Farrell’s paper, “Corporate funding and ideological polarization about climate change,” was published in the Proceedings of the Naitonal Academy of Sciences in 2015. It includes a list of 164 organizations who are part of the “climate counter-movement,” as well as which of these groups have received funding from ExxonMobil or the Koch brothers (CFACT has received funding from both). [37], [38]

    Note that while ExxonMobil has donated over $582,000 to CFACT over the years, the oil company reports that it no longer funds the organization. [6], [46]


    https://www.desmogblog.com/committee...ctive-tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
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    Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT)

    Background

    The Washington-DC-based Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) is a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) organization founded in 1985 by David Rothbard and Craig Rucker to pursue a free-market approach to environmental issues. CFACT describes their mission as “relentlessly infusing the environmental debate with a balanced perspective on environmental stewardship.” [1]

    According to their website, “Its co-founders, David Rothbard and Craig Rucker, believed very strongly that the power of the market combined with the applications of safe technologies could offer humanity practical solutions to many of the world’s pressing concerns.” [1]

    In 1989, Craig Rucker and David Rothbard approached the Chemical Manufacturers Association (CMA) requesting “corporate involvement and support.” According to CMA's documents, CFACT was established to “fight the Public Interest Research Groups (PIRG) and Ralph Nader-type organizations.” [42]

    SourceWatch also describes CFACT as the conservative answer to U.S. Public Interest Research Groups such as NYPIRG, ConnPIRG, and other progressive organizations lobbying for environmental issues. [23]

    The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow was highlighted in a paper by Yale University's Dr. Justin Farrell. Farrell’s paper, “Corporate funding and ideological polarization about climate change,” was published in the Proceedings of the Naitonal Academy of Sciences in 2015. It includes a list of 164 organizations who are part of the “climate counter-movement,” as well as which of these groups have received funding from ExxonMobil or the Koch brothers (CFACT has received funding from both). [37], [38]

    Note that while ExxonMobil has donated over $582,000 to CFACT over the years, the oil company reports that it no longer funds the organization. [6], [46]


    https://www.desmogblog.com/committee...ctive-tomorrow
    How predictable that a brain-dead arsehole like RG rushes to Google and finds DeSmogBlog. Well two can play that game, the loathsome creep failed to notice that the study was from the University of Iceland but that's par for the course.

    http://leftexposed.org/2016/08/desmogblog/
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    A site for morons featuring a moronic article authored by a moron and posted here by another one. Haw, haw...........................................haw.
    How would a moron like you be able to tell anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The earth and its climate are changing...and they are changing fast.

    It just makes sense to reduce and restrict the burning of fossil fuels, and no amount of rabid Climate Denial is ever going to change that simple equation.

    On a sidebar, I was about a heart beat away from choosing to specialize in glaciology in grad school. At this point, I do not think it is a good career move for an aspiring earth scientist - a lot of these glaciers might be gone or severely reduced in a few decades.
    If the Left were really that interested in reducing CO2 then they'd wholeheartedly support nuclear energy rather than wasting vast sums on unreliable renewables.

    https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why...ve-the-planet/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    If the Left were really that interested in reducing CO2 then they'd wholeheartedly support nuclear energy rather than wasting vast sums on unreliable renewables.

    https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why...ve-the-planet/
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    If you have a painful boil on your ass-cheek, maggot- you should shoot yourself through the other one to take your ..er....mind off the pain.
    Think that I'm done with your bullshit, ignore from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Think that I'm done with your bullshit, ignore from now on.
    Thread ban list for you, maggot. Quid pro quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Thread ban list for you, maggot. Quid pro quo.
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    Bidirectional Forwarding Detection ? Haw, haw...........................haw.
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