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    maggot- you are stuffed.

    Climate change: Current warming 'unparalleled' in 2,000 years



    The speed and extent of current global warming exceeds any similar event in the past 2,000 years, researchers say.

    They show that famous historic events like the "Little Ice Age" don't compare with the scale of warming seen over the last century.

    The research suggests that the current warming rate is higher than any observed previously.

    The scientists say it shows many of the arguments used by climate sceptics are no longer valid.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49086783

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Proxy data isn't used in science. It depends too much on speculative conclusions.

    If science needs to take a measurement, only direct measurements are used.

    Do not mistake this for any kind of science.
    The only temperature data we have before the invention of satellites and thermometers is proxy data. It is valid science. It is just not as precise as modern instrument data.

    There is a big problem called Tree Ring Divergence, where modern proxy data does not agree with the satellite data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    maggot- you are stuffed.




    Now- you'll be allowed to lie about man-made climate change- as you've done all along- because that's, currently, your freedom-of-speech right.
    However, we'll be seeking legislation to criminalize ecocidal activities- so it'll be the slammer for you and your ilk unless you change your ways. With good management ecocidal nutters will be prosecuted for retrospective activities.
    So you believe in freedom of speech, but you don't. Riiiight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The only temperature data we have before the invention of satellites and thermometers is proxy data. It is valid science.
    Satellites are incapable of measuring the temperature of the Earth or of making any absolute measurement of temperature. The emissivity of Earth is unknown.

    Science isn't data. Data is the result of an observation. All observations are subject to the problems of phenomenology. Basically, we each interpret what we observe, giving meaning to that observation in our own unique way.

    Science is a set of falsifiable theories. No theory contains data as part of that theory.

    If anyone in science needs to make a measurement to test a theory, that measurement must be a direct measurement. Proxy data does not test any theory. It is not science or testing a theory of science.
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    It is just not as precise as modern instrument data.
    Irrelevant. Only direct tests against a theory mean anything in science. Science does not use supporting evidence at all.
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    There is a big problem called Tree Ring Divergence, where modern proxy data does not agree with the satellite data.
    Speculation. There is no theory of science for tree rings. Tree rings may vary widely depending on the moisture available for the tree that year, the temperature (some species of tree prefer cooler temperatures), and the soil the tree is planted in.

    There is no satellite data. Satellites are incapable of measuring an absolute temperature. Such a measurement attempt would depend on the Stefan-Boltzmann law. The emissivity of Earth is unknown.

    There is insufficient thermometer data. It is not uncommon for temperature to vary by as much as 20 deg F per mile. There simply aren't enough thermometers to reduce the margin of error down to an acceptable value and the thermometers that are there are not uniformly space nor being read at the same time or by the same authority.

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    Into the Night, thank you for sharing your opinion, tho I disagree with much of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Into the Night, thank you for sharing your opinion, tho I disagree with much of it.
    You are certainly free to do so.

    Is there a particular point you disagree with? Perhaps I can clarify my position for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Is there a particular point you disagree with? .

    Yep. The one on top of your fool head. Haw, haw...........................haw.


    You're done. Climate skepticism is just so .....er.......................yesterday.
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