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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    It is hard to take anyone serious that has a name of a Muppet especially Gonzo.

    This is from the CIA web site "Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade.
    Baghdad hides large portions of Iraq's WMD efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information.
    Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort, energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons; most analysts assess Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."
    https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/...q_Oct_2002.htm
    George Tenet told the president only once that Iraq had WMD and Bush made it clear that that wasn't the answer he wanted so Tenet never repeated any of the information after that. You have no clue.

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    This is every thing that has to be said about how stupid these right wing followers are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    You have no clue, (code name curve ball)
    No matter how you present the narrative, the war was a colossal blunder, upset the fragile balance that had existed in the area at the time which produced the consequences we are living with today.

    It never was about WMD, rather, leaders in way over their head who had little understanding of the ME

    And if Trump did see domestic events threatening his reelection I have no doubt he would use initiating hostilities as a deflection, he's not really an ethical or moralistic individual and his team is as inadequate as Bush's was back then, probably more so

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Reagan gave Iraq tons of the WMD and then sent people there to teach them how to use it and make it.
    We had a program called Atoms for Peace. It began with Eisenhower and was a start of nuclear Iran. Reagan and other presidents kept it going. We were involved in their program until the revolution. Then we suddenly were shocked by it.
    The soviets helped Iraq start their program. So did France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Bush's war. He cooked the story that Powell lied to the UN. He lied about it from beginning to end. Once he had enough people conned, it was going to happen. A politician who votes against a war that is going to happen does so at the expense of his career. That according to US Grant.
    Truth is there were a couple of pols who were in safe enough districts to vote against it, but most would have lost their jobs.
    It was the war of Bush and the neocons as planned by PNAC.
    It is you who is rewriting history and telling right wing lies.
    Example of most politicians,do the wrong thing,if it will save your own ass.
    Who cares about the youth in your district killed in a fake war.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No matter how you present the narrative, the war was a colossal blunder, upset the fragile balance that had existed in the area at the time which produced the consequences we are living with today.

    It never was about WMD, rather, leaders in way over their head who had little understanding of the ME

    And if Trump did see domestic events threatening his reelection I have no doubt he would use initiating hostilities as a deflection, he's not really an ethical or moralistic individual and his team is as inadequate as Bush's was back then, probably more so
    Look up "code name Curve ball" you will love it. It's a gas. My opinion is that Bush and his cabinet murdered 5000 American hero's

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No matter how you present the narrative, the war was a colossal blunder, upset the fragile balance that had existed in the area at the time which produced the consequences we are living with today.

    It never was about WMD, rather, leaders in way over their head who had little understanding of the ME

    And if Trump did see domestic events threatening his reelection I have no doubt he would use initiating hostilities as a deflection, he's not really an ethical or moralistic individual and his team is as inadequate as Bush's was back then, probably more so
    Forgot this, what do you think of the area influence being started when Russia first went to Afghanistan, That seemed to bring a massive group of radical Muslims to the front

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    Trump essentially threatened using nukes on Afghanistan yesterday. Is that the 5th time he made such a threat? I was shocked when in the beginning he said "what's the point of having nukes if you do not use them" Our psychopath in chief is terrifying. He talked so casually of killing 10 million Afghanistanis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Bush's war? Guess you forgot how many Democrats voted to go into Iraq based on the exact same intelligence that Bush had. It's idiot's like you that try to rewrite history.
    you mean the intelligence Bush manufactured

    they LIED us to war asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    Example of most politicians,do the wrong thing,if it will save your own ass.
    Who cares about the youth in your district killed in a fake war.
    nope


    there are many decent honest politicians

    just not in the republican party

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    Cheney USED the idiot Bush to lie us into taking the shit cork out of the bottle of bees


    All so he could get mountains of green paper



    cheney is evil walking

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    the entire time we were in the Iraq war with Bush at the head of things

    the OIL rigs had their measuring devices BROKEN

    the Cheney team REFUSED to allow them to be fixed


    they STOLE billions of gallons of oil folks


    that was the aim


    steal the oil and sell it


    they essentially got free oil and sold it for profit


    while children died

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the entire time we were in the Iraq war with Bush at the head of things

    the OIL rigs had their measuring devices BROKEN

    the Cheney team REFUSED to allow them to be fixed


    they STOLE billions of gallons of oil folks


    that was the aim


    steal the oil and sell it


    they essentially got free oil and sold it for profit


    while children died
    The two biggest monetary winner in Iraq in dollars was Halliburton and Carlyle. Surprise surprise

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    Funny how the OP doesn’t remember Obama’s wars ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the entire time we were in the Iraq war with Bush at the head of things

    the OIL rigs had their measuring devices BROKEN

    the Cheney team REFUSED to allow them to be fixed


    they STOLE billions of gallons of oil folks


    that was the aim


    steal the oil and sell it


    they essentially got free oil and sold it for profit


    while children died
    The Brits and Americans divided up Iraq"s oil fields before the war. The genesis of the war can be found in PNAC. The neocons including Bush, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,Bolton,Cheney and others had a blueprint to remake the middle east. There was a series of wars planned. Bush could not wait to get it started.
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