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I agree it has done a great deal for us, but private industries are making the advancements now and the government can launch new industries. Our oceans for one. We have not explored our own oceans to the fullest extent. There is also green energy. I think we should find out about our own space before going to outer space, but that's just my personal opinion.
The opportunities in space are astronomical, excuse the pun, and it will alter the course of human history.
A half of children in China want to be astronauts. Most kids in western countries want to be Youtubers. Do the math
You guys defunded space exploration and look where it got you.
The anti-Trumper's new mantra:
“B-b-but muh White supremacy”
cancel2 2022 (07-22-2019)
Hello cawacko,
If we let individuals stand in the way of progress we would have no interstates and instead be stuck with a patchwork of highways woven in between existing properties without any sense of planing. There would be a myriad of traffic signals, more highway crowding and deaths. It would take approx twice as long to do a distant trip by car. The rights of the many both present and future must be weighed against the rights of the individual.
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Hello Phantasmal,
I kind of agree with that. There is so much more we can do here with the money. Connecting our country with a network of bullet trains would save tons of CO2 from the atmosphere and create tons of jobs. It would also enhance our economy by making us more interconnected. Not to mention that just because government decides not to spend so heavily in space is no reason that private industry won't be doing it anyway.
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Phantasmal (07-21-2019)
Reminder: Obama was handed a crippled economy to patch up and faced vociferous Republican deficit hawks. Those Republican deficit hawks have all vanished and been replaced by spendthrifts who went on and on about fixing healthcare but then when they got their chance at the karaoke mic totally froze up and couldn't produce a peep of actionable health care reform. Do what you said you were going to do before you tell us what you want to do next.
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Phantasmal (07-21-2019)
Yes, I live here to, as do others & we hear all the time from the not progressive communities that they want those tracks by their house.
It's stupid is the reason.......... @ least here, this isn't the eastern seaboard...
You can already fly-not subsidized for less & much faster....... IMHO simply a waste...
First time there is an earthquake & a train flys off they will be calling it the old ghost train...
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
Was the S.F. to L.A. version of the train going through Sacramento? (not a rhetorical question, I thought it was Bakersfield and the Central Valley - not Sac)
I mention progressive communities because I'm most familiar with what's being discussed in the Bay Area and the resistance here. That's not to suggest more conservative communities would be open to it. And I was painting a picture of the (progressive) political environment which in theory would be most open to this high speed rail.
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
I thought it was a big boondoggle from the start. I'm not ideologically opposed to high speed rail. I'm all for new transportation alternatives if they work and are cost effective etc. Our roads are a damn mess. But after reading about all the money going to consultants and how they were going about it and after talking to some acquaintances who were involved I was against it from the start. And with the extraordinary cost overruns and how everything has gone down that's exactly how it's played out.
Bill (07-21-2019), cancel2 2022 (07-22-2019)
I have never been for it either..... The only thing I saw as a positive~if it can be called that, was the jobs brown talked about.. Sadly it reminded me kinda of that story about "dulling the axes, that which once took one blow, will not take five, thus more men will be @ work"
You know how it is if you are driving home up 5 on a Sunday night. Bumper to bumper from Pasadena all the way to Tracy ( several hundred thousand vehicles)??.. How many is a single train going to carry??
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
I admit I am a space geek and have always been inclined towards significant funding for NASA.
My head tells me that your point makes total sense.
I also think manned space exploration is superfluous and unwarranted at this time. We really should just be funding unmanned interplanetary probes and telescopes and other technological platforms in low earth orbit.
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