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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The moon program created lots of jobs. A lot of technology that was created has become industries. It gave a huge jump to the US in compters and peaceful applications. The space program gave us a boost in mathematics, engineering, computer technology and many other areas of expertise. We should all push for space exploration.
    I agree it has done a great deal for us, but private industries are making the advancements now and the government can launch new industries. Our oceans for one. We have not explored our own oceans to the fullest extent. There is also green energy. I think we should find out about our own space before going to outer space, but that's just my personal opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I agree it has done a great deal for us, but private industries are making the advancements now and the government can launch new industries. Our oceans for one. We have not explored our own oceans to the fullest extent. There is also green energy. I think we should find out about our own space before going to outer space, but that's just my personal opinion.
    Wouldn't that be like "We should take care of the people in the US and fix the problems in the US; before we try to fix everyone else's problems."!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    What is all this going to the Moon nonsense? Are we so flush with money that we can take on these ridiculous projects?

    Give us good healthcare to rally the patriotism in this country, not some stupid mission to the Moon, or Mars.

    Improve our infrastructure!

    They really are trying to take us back, old white guy nostalgia.

    Its just so stupid.
    The opportunities in space are astronomical, excuse the pun, and it will alter the course of human history.

    A half of children in China want to be astronauts. Most kids in western countries want to be Youtubers. Do the math

    You guys defunded space exploration and look where it got you.
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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    As far as bullet trains we can look at California to see how that works. From a political perspective you have about as ideal of conditions as your could want. You have a heavily blue state where Republicans have little to no power. We have high taxes and people who claim to care about infrastructure. And yet it has been a disaster to the extent Governor Newsom has it not so many words put it on hold (the LA to SF portion). Not to mention you have these (progressive) communities fighting it because they don't want tracks near where they live.

    I guess someone could argue the federal government should step in and eliminate all rights of the state and local communities to force it to be built. But even in progressive California that wouldn't fly.
    If we let individuals stand in the way of progress we would have no interstates and instead be stuck with a patchwork of highways woven in between existing properties without any sense of planing. There would be a myriad of traffic signals, more highway crowding and deaths. It would take approx twice as long to do a distant trip by car. The rights of the many both present and future must be weighed against the rights of the individual.
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    Hello Phantasmal,

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I agree it has done a great deal for us, but private industries are making the advancements now and the government can launch new industries. Our oceans for one. We have not explored our own oceans to the fullest extent. There is also green energy. I think we should find out about our own space before going to outer space, but that's just my personal opinion.
    I kind of agree with that. There is so much more we can do here with the money. Connecting our country with a network of bullet trains would save tons of CO2 from the atmosphere and create tons of jobs. It would also enhance our economy by making us more interconnected. Not to mention that just because government decides not to spend so heavily in space is no reason that private industry won't be doing it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heff View Post
    The opportunities in space are astronomical, excuse the pun, and it will alter the course of human history.

    A half of children in China want to be astronauts. Most kids in western countries want to be Youtubers. Do the math

    You guys defunded space exploration and look where it got you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    As far as bullet trains we can look at California to see how that works. From a political perspective you have about as ideal of conditions as your could want. You have a heavily blue state where Republicans have little to no power. We have high taxes and people who claim to care about infrastructure. And yet it has been a disaster to the extent Governor Newsom has it not so many words put it on hold (the LA to SF portion). Not to mention you have these (progressive) communities fighting it because they don't want tracks near where they live.

    I guess someone could argue the federal government should step in and eliminate all rights of the state and local communities to force it to be built. But even in progressive California that wouldn't fly.
    Yes, I live here to, as do others & we hear all the time from the not progressive communities that they want those tracks by their house.

    It's stupid is the reason.......... @ least here, this isn't the eastern seaboard...

    You can already fly-not subsidized for less & much faster....... IMHO simply a waste...

    First time there is an earthquake & a train flys off they will be calling it the old ghost train...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The moon program created lots of jobs. A lot of technology that was created has become industries. It gave a huge jump to the US in compters and peaceful applications. The space program gave us a boost in mathematics, engineering, computer technology and many other areas of expertise. We should all push for space exploration.
    Will there be jobs for Americans?? Or will they bring in H1B for the high paying jobs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yes, I live here to, as do others & we hear all the time from the not progressive communities that they want those tracks by their house.

    It's stupid is the reason.......... @ least here, this isn't the eastern seaboard...

    You can already fly-not subsidized for less & much faster....... IMHO simply a waste...

    First time there is an earthquake & a train flys off they will be calling it the old ghost train...
    Was the S.F. to L.A. version of the train going through Sacramento? (not a rhetorical question, I thought it was Bakersfield and the Central Valley - not Sac)

    I mention progressive communities because I'm most familiar with what's being discussed in the Bay Area and the resistance here. That's not to suggest more conservative communities would be open to it. And I was painting a picture of the (progressive) political environment which in theory would be most open to this high speed rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Was the S.F. to L.A. version of the train going through Sacramento? (not a rhetorical question, I thought it was Bakersfield and the Central Valley - not Sac)

    I mention progressive communities because I'm most familiar with what's being discussed in the Bay Area and the resistance here. That's not to suggest more conservative communities would be open to it. And I was painting a picture of the (progressive) political environment which in theory would be most open to this high speed rail.
    No, not right away, it was going to extend there supposedly @ some point..

    What do you think about it??

    They are "planning" bakersfield to Merced?? -sounds like a joke to me..... One shithole to another, the middle of no where...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    No, not right away, it was going to extend there supposedly @ some point..

    What do you think about it??

    They are "planning" bakersfield to Merced?? -sounds like a joke to me..... One shithole to another, the middle of no where...
    I thought it was a big boondoggle from the start. I'm not ideologically opposed to high speed rail. I'm all for new transportation alternatives if they work and are cost effective etc. Our roads are a damn mess. But after reading about all the money going to consultants and how they were going about it and after talking to some acquaintances who were involved I was against it from the start. And with the extraordinary cost overruns and how everything has gone down that's exactly how it's played out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I thought it was a big boondoggle from the start. I'm not ideologically opposed to high speed rail. I'm all for new transportation alternatives if they work and are cost effective etc. Our roads are a damn mess. But after reading about all the money going to consultants and how they were going about it and after talking to some acquaintances who were involved I was against it from the start. And with the extraordinary cost overruns and how everything has gone down that's exactly how it's played out.
    I have never been for it either..... The only thing I saw as a positive~if it can be called that, was the jobs brown talked about.. Sadly it reminded me kinda of that story about "dulling the axes, that which once took one blow, will not take five, thus more men will be @ work"

    You know how it is if you are driving home up 5 on a Sunday night. Bumper to bumper from Pasadena all the way to Tracy ( several hundred thousand vehicles)??.. How many is a single train going to carry??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    What is all this going to the Moon nonsense? Are we so flush with money that we can take on these ridiculous projects?

    Give us good healthcare to rally the patriotism in this country, not some stupid mission to the Moon, or Mars.

    Improve our infrastructure!

    They really are trying to take us back, old white guy nostalgia.

    Its just so stupid.
    I admit I am a space geek and have always been inclined towards significant funding for NASA.

    My head tells me that your point makes total sense.

    I also think manned space exploration is superfluous and unwarranted at this time. We really should just be funding unmanned interplanetary probes and telescopes and other technological platforms in low earth orbit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I admit I am a space geek and have always been inclined towards significant funding for NASA.

    My head tells me that your point makes total sense.

    I also think manned space exploration is superfluous and unwarranted at this time. We really should just be funding unmanned interplanetary probes and telescopes and other technological platforms in low earth orbit.
    I worry about our oceans. I guess that is why my focus would be on them. We have a direct impact on our oceans.
    I love space, but I just think the ocean is more urgent.
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