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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    And the Republicans have refused to do anything about those flaws. They hate the idea of health care that works for anyone but the rich.

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    Obamacare was not sustainable.
    There's not enough money in the world to sustain it for 330 million people....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better.”

    Or, as he said in a September 2015 “60 Minutes” interview, “I am going to take care of everybody. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”"


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    Instead, he could not get Republicans to create a better plan, and worse, they have acted to kill Obamacare by killing the individual mandate.
    hmmm......the demmycrats and the Republicans in Congress failed to reach an agreement and its a Trump lie?......

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    Biden is the only candidate for the democratic nomination that wants to keep Obamacare......and he's not even on it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    No, they were not. They were trying to keep our shitty overpriced healthcare system in place for the benefit of large corporations. Obama care could have been improved. They could have slowly taken health insurance companies out of the equation. They only add cost and complexity to healthcare.
    Only thing they could do is make it cost more by reemoving insurance companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    hmmm......the demmycrats and the Republicans in Congress failed to reach an agreement and its a Trump lie?......
    Hmm what does Trump's healthcare solution look like? What policy do the Repugs have? hmmmm.why none, none at all. Obama care was easily fixable. If Hillary was in the office the voters voted for her to have, they would have done a lot to improve it. Well tried to , McConnelll would have blocked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Only thing they could do is make it cost more by reemoving insurance companies.
    That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.
    No, they dont.
    The margin in that business is rather low. And they do vastly better at eliminating fraud.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/business/...e-elusive.html

    And thats just the 30 b they know about. Nevermind the hundreds of billions they dont know about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Obama care was easily fixable.
    Biden is the only democrat running who wants to fix Obamacare.......the other 25 want to toss it out.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    That makes sense to you? Health insurance companies add many billions to the cost of health in America and do not provide any care at all. They stand between you and the doctors. They should be eliminated.
    they administer.......their share of premiums has always been regulated by the states.......in Michigan, for instance they were required to distribute 93% of premiums for health care........they could keep only 7% for expenses and "profit".....until Obamacare, that is........then the federal government voided all previous state regulations.....

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    Hello Gonzomin,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Silly meme. If Obamacare was dying on its own the Repubs would not have to deliberately attack it and try and kill it so often. Yet in spite of that and countless Repuvb votes against, it still stands. How many Republican votes to end it? You call that disinterest? Reds joining in Republican lying games and their own self-delusion is the only product.
    The PPACA would have been just fine if Republicans had not attacked it with intent to destroy. They looked for a weak spot, found it, exploited it, killed it. They couldn't come up with anything better but they were afraid it was getting too popular and couldn't stand to see a Democratic success story. The only reason socialism might fail in this case is because Republicans feared it and killed it. Too bad. It was helping so many people. How cruel. People will be dying because of Republican greed.
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    Hello Celticguy;,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Congress hasnt done it yet
    Had both houses for 2 years couldn't do it.

    Republican fail.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    They were trying to shorten the pain. Cant blame them for wanting to deliver affordable care sooner rather than later.
    What is the Republican affordable health care plan?

    ???

    People are dying to see it.
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    Hello and welcome CookieCrusher,

    Quote Originally Posted by CookieCrusher View Post
    The truth is THEY ALL LIE.
    lol
    I thanked your post not because I agree with you but because I respect anyone who can express them self without vitriol. I do not believe all politicians lie, but most of them certainly do. All the ones on the take from deep pocketed corporate legal corruption campaign backers are forced to lie. I can't think of a lie by Presidents Carter or Ford.
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    Hello CookieCrusher,

    Quote Originally Posted by CookieCrusher View Post
    Obamacare was not sustainable.
    There's not enough money in the world to sustain it for 330 million people....
    Certainly not using the for-profit method. Too many greedy hands dipping into the mix.

    What is needed is a National Health Service where dedicated health care workers provide care with every bit of conviction and commitment to purpose found within our military ranks.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Only thing they could do is make it cost more by reemoving insurance companies.
    If the profits are removed from the equation, and all other costs remain the same, the result is it costs LESS.

    Simple math.
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