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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    No, they dont.
    The margin in that business is rather low. And they do vastly better at eliminating fraud.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/business/...e-elusive.html

    And thats just the 30 b they know about. Nevermind the hundreds of billions they dont know about.
    Greed? Theft? -Better regulation required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy;,



    Had both houses for 2 years couldn't do it.

    Republican fail.
    In that they would not choose to employ procedural gambits, yes, they failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    What is the Republican affordable health care plan?

    ???

    People are dying to see it.
    People did see it. You did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    If the profits are removed from the equation, and all other costs remain the same, the result is it costs LESS.

    Simple math.
    If you ignore fraud.
    Medicare knows if 30bil in fraud that they are unable to recoup. And they have no clue what the real tally is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    Greed? Theft? -Better regulation required.
    No. Better execution, the regulations are there. Fraud is not much of a concern to CMS.
    ERIC CIARAMELLA whose name may not be spoken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    They did, several in fact. Congress wasnt interested.
    Obamacare is dying undet the weight if its flaws.
    What kind of plan did they propose????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They've been conditioned to blame every failure to deliver on anyone but the Toadstool, as well. You know, like the Wall that Mexico was going to pay for -- (D)s' fault, despite the (R)s have control of both Houses and the WH for two years.
    You hit the nail right on the head.

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    Lying is Trump forte, and anyone with average intelligence should be able to plainly see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    What kind of plan did they propose????
    Effective measures
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Effective measures
    Any details

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They've been conditioned to blame every failure to deliver on anyone but the Toadstool, as well. You know, like the Wall that Mexico was going to pay for -- (D)s' fault, despite the (R)s have control of both Houses and the WH for two years.
    trump started it on day one. He went on and on about 'Obamacare is essentially dead', after ripping pieces of it apart. His number one concern, however delusional was 'nobody is going to blame me'.

    Day one, it was all about blame for what he had in store for those he promised to 'take care of'.

    '18 showed him who Americans blame. '20 will be worse.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    And the Republicans have refused to do anything about those flaws. They hate the idea of health care that works for anyone but the rich.

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    Truth is, they had to kill ACA before their tax giveaway. They wanted to get rid of the 2.8% cap gains tax on high earners that funds the Medicaid expansion. They failed.

    As far as creating an actual healthcare plan for the country? That was secondary to the above referenced mandate.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    There is no fixing the flaws. The entire design is shite.
    You have yet to show us that you understand anything about the ACA. You ran from your own thread when I asked your opinion on key aspects of your own link.

    But by all means...keep doing drive bys with idiotic talking points. It makes you look like a stable genius.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Barron View Post
    Trump said he could. He said he was the only one that could fix everything. Hasn't done it yet.
    I believe he claimed it would be 'so easy'.

    Then:
    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump noted with some exasperation Monday the complexity of the nation's health laws, which he's vowed to reform as part of a bid to scrap Obamacare.

    "We have come up with a solution that's really, really I think very good," Trump said at a meeting of the nation's governors at the White House.
    "Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."


    Nobody? Really?

    Moron

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/polit...ted/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Celticguy,



    Obamacare is dying because it was attacked by Republicans.

    Show us the better way.

    What is the Republican plan?

    Show us the better boat before you blow a hole in the bottom of the one we are on

    Otherwise, shut up and keep paddling.
    He's already admitted to knowing nothing about ACA
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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