View Poll Results: Which is your favorite excuse for Trump's racist tweets about the Squad?

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  • He never mentioned race.

    5 35.71%
  • He would have said it about white people too.

    1 7.14%
  • Arabic and Mestizo aren't races.

    1 7.14%
  • What about what some other person did?

    4 28.57%
  • It wasn't racism, it was xenophobia.

    0 0%
  • They hate America,

    0 0%
  • dEmS aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs.

    3 21.43%
  • He wasn't talking about the Squad.

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The tweets about the Squad where he used the racist trope of telling non-white people who were born here to "go back."
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    How is that racist?
    It's not. Telling someone to fix their own socialist country with their socialist ideas instead of ruining our capitalism-based federated republic with their socialist ideas is not racist. StoneByStone has no idea what racism is, since he rejects logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Burning a cross on a black person's lawn isn't racist? What is it then?
    The same thing it is when someone else burns a cross on any person's lawn without permission..........a crime
    When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear. -Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It's not. Telling someone to fix their own socialist country with their socialist ideas instead of ruining our capitalism-based federated republic with their socialist ideas is not racist. StoneByStone has no idea what racism is, since he rejects logic.
    But all four of them are American citizens and three of them were even born here.
    The tweets only make sense when you're aware that "go back to your country" is a racist trope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/15/206946...tlaib-pressley

    Are you referring to the above-linked tweet by any chance?? If so, Trump did not ONCE mention anything about race in that tweet, let alone make any sort of racist comments within it... YOU are the one who is attempting to make his tweet about race. This is YOUR issue, not Trump's.
    Did you vote in the poll?
    "He never mentioned race" is one of the options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    How about you providing a definition, then? Enlighten us.
    Sure thing. I have already provided it countless times, but I will provide it here once again...

    Racism is a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class and a genetic trait as the property.

    A fallacy is an error of logic. A compositional error fallacy is the improper extension of a property of an item of a class across other items within that same class or across the class itself.

    The "marbles in a bag" example works quite well for illustrating this. Let's say that you pick a marble out of the bag and it is black. Then you pick a second one out and it is also black... A third one is black... A fourth one is black. You then conclude that all the marbles in the bag are black. By doing so, you are improperly extending a property [color] of an item [a marble] of a class [marbles] across other items within the same class [the other marbles inside the bag]. Those other marbles might actually be white, blue, yellow, red, green, etc...

    Racism and bigotry are simply specific forms of that same compositional error fallacy. For bigotry, it is the specific form in which people (instead of marbles) are the class. For racism, it is the bigotry mentioned above, but it also includes some sort of genetic trait (such as skin color) as the property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Argument by emoji dismissed? Good lord, toxic needs to slink away and hide then!
    Yes, I dismiss all "arguments by emoji" on sight, as dismissing an argument as 'absurd' through use of emojis is not valid argumentation. He committed the Argument of the Stone Fallacy, but when people commit that fallacy through use of emojis, I like to refer to it as an "Argument By Emoji".

    What racist tweet has Trump made? Do you have a link to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But all four of them are American citizens and three of them were even born here.
    The tweets only make sense when you're aware that "go back to your country" is a racist trope.
    You are forming a derogatory model, applying that model to someone else, and assuming that the derogatory model is the ONLY model. You YOURSELF are being racist, here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Did you vote in the poll?
    "He never mentioned race" is one of the options.
    Did you go to the poll and look at the votes?
    Doing your own homework is an option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You are forming a derogatory model, applying that model to someone else, and assuming that the derogatory model is the ONLY model. You YOURSELF are being racist, here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Argument By Emoji dismissed on sight.

    Try a valid argument next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Chicken View Post
    The same thing it is when someone else burns a cross on any person's lawn without permission..........a crime
    It's more than just a random crime, there's a sinister meaning behind it. And check out what happened when this crime was appealed to SCOTUS.

    In recent decades the United States Supreme Court has decided two cases involving cross burning – R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992) and Virginia v. Black (2003). In each case the defendants were arrested and convicted of a crime for burning a cross, and in each case the Supreme Court reversed the defendants’ convictions. I discuss each of those cases below.

    http://amsterdamlawforum.org/article/view/103/184


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yurt View Post
    Trump annoys me, however, I do enjoy that he totally owns the democrats. He is playing 6th dimensional chess and they are stuck deciding which pawn on their two dimensional board to move....
    The idea that Trump is some master strategist who is playing a complex game of chess, and not a dimwitted lazy fuckmook who tries to eat the chess pieces, is hilarious and tragic.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The idea that Trump is some master strategist who is playing a complex game of chess, and not a dimwitted lazy fuckmook who tries to eat the chess pieces, is hilarious and tragic.
    well said......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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