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    Default Victor Davis Hanson-America's been so great, now people expect perfection

    Right up front I apologize, but there is no transcription. I only have a 5 minute video.
    VDH speaks flawlessly regarding the expectations and the high bar of
    perfection now on the U.S. He also goes beyond the usual superficial
    outward displays of emotions regarding the root cause of the issues of
    the 'squad'. Basically it's a regression to a time before 'the enlightenment'
    where people held tightly to tribe mentalities.


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    Victor Davis Hanson: America does not have to be perfect to be good (despite what radical progressives tell us)

    The summer season has ripped off the thin scab that covered an American wound, revealing a festering disagreement about the nature and origins of the United States.

    The San Francisco Board of Education recently voted to paint over, and thus destroy, a 1,600-square-foot mural of George Washington’s life in San Francisco’s George Washington High School.

    Victor Arnautoff, a communist Russian-American artist and Stanford University art professor, had painted “Life of Washington” in 1936, commissioned by the New Deal’s Works Progress Administration. A community task force appointed by the school district had recommended that the board address student and parent objections to the 83-year-old mural, which some viewed as racist for its depiction of black slaves and Native Americans.

    Nike pitchman and former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick recently objected to the company’s release of a special Fourth of July sneaker emblazoned with a 13-star Betsy Ross flag. The terrified Nike immediately pulled the shoe off the market.

    The New York Times opinion team issued a Fourth of July video about “the myth of America as the greatest nation on earth.” The Times’ journalists conceded that the United States is “just OK.”

    During a recent speech to students at a Minnesota high school, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) offered a scathing appraisal of her adopted country, which she depicted as a disappointment whose racism and inequality did not meet her expectations as an idealistic refugee. Omar’s family had fled worn-torn Somalia and spent four-years in a Kenyan refugee camp before reaching Minnesota, where Omar received a subsidized education and ended up a congresswoman.

    The U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team won the World Cup earlier this month. Team stalwart Megan Rapinoe refused to put her hand over heart during the playing of the national anthem, boasted that she would never visit the “f---ing White House” and, with others, nonchalantly let the American flag fall to the ground during the victory celebration.

    The city council in St. Louis Park, a suburb of Minneapolis, voted to stop reciting the Pledge of Allegiance before its meeting on the rationale that it wished not to offend a “diverse community.”

    The list of these public pushbacks at traditional American patriotic customs and rituals could be multiplied. They follow the recent frequent toppling of statues of 19th-century American figures, many of them from the South, and the renaming of streets and buildings to blot out mention of famous men and women from the past now deemed illiberal enemies of the people.

    Such theater is the street version of what candidates in the Democratic presidential primary have been saying for months. They want to disband border enforcement, issue blanket amnesties, demand reparations for descendants of slaves, issue formal apologies to groups perceived to be the subjects of discrimination, and rail against American unfairness, inequality, and a racist and sexist past.

    In their radical progressive view — shared by billionaires from Silicon Valley, recent immigrants and the new Democratic Party — America was flawed, perhaps fatally, at its origins. Things have not gotten much better in the country’s subsequent 243 years, nor will they get any better — at least not until America as we know it is dismantled and replaced by a new nation predicated on race, class and gender identity-politics agendas.

    In this view, an “OK” America is no better than other countries. As Barack Obama once bluntly put it, America is only exceptional in relative terms, given that citizens of Greece and the United Kingdom believe their own countries are just as exceptional. In other words, there is no absolute standard to judge a nation’s excellence.

    About half the country disagrees. It insists that America’s sins, past and present, are those of mankind. But only in America were human failings constantly critiqued and addressed.

    America does not have be perfect to be good. As the world’s wealthiest democracy, it certainly has given people from all over the world greater security and affluence than any other nation in history — with the largest economy, largest military, greatest energy production and most top-ranked universities in the world.

    America alone kept the postwar peace and still preserves free and safe global communications, travel and commerce.

    The traditionalists see American history as a unique effort to overcome human weakness, bias and sin. That effort is unmatched by other cultures and nations, and explains why millions of foreign nationals swarm into the United States, both legally and illegally.


    These arguments over our past are really over the present — and especially the future.

    If progressives and socialists can at last convince the American public that their country was always hopelessly flawed, they can gain power to remake it based on their own interests. These elites see Americans not as unique individuals but as race, class and gender collectives, with shared grievances from the past that must be paid out in the present and the future.

    We’ve seen something like this fight before, in 1861 — and it didn’t end well.


    Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow in military history at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and a professor emeritus of classics at California State University, Fresno. He is the author of more than two dozen books, ranging in topics from ancient Greece to modern America, most recently "The Case for Trump" (Basic Books, 2019) He lives in Selma, California.
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    Something to think about.
    Our country has been around for about 250 years. Others have existed for
    hundreds, some for thousands.
    How many other countries had governments formed that did away with slavery,
    gender inequity, silencing certain races and females from voting/having a say
    in their politics all within 200 years of their founding?
    By comparison, we did it in record time. Now it seems people are bored with being
    satisfied, thankful and are in the stage of seeking utopian perfection instead of simply living
    in freedom and fixing things when they're actually broken. Now some people want to
    elevate tribal identity to the point that it's the true measure of a life's worth.
    Some can't be simply satisfied with who they are as a human being the same as everyone else.
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    “During a recent speech to students at a Minnesota high school, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) offered a scathing appraisal of her adopted country, which she depicted as a disappointment whose racism and inequality did not meet her expectations as an idealistic refugee. Omar’s family had fled worn-torn Somalia and spent four-years in a Kenyan refugee camp before reaching Minnesota, where Omar received a subsidized education and ended up a congresswoman“.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    “During a recent speech to students at a Minnesota high school, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) offered a scathing appraisal of her adopted country, which she depicted as a disappointment whose racism and inequality did not meet her expectations as an idealistic refugee. Omar’s family had fled worn-torn Somalia and spent four-years in a Kenyan refugee camp before reaching Minnesota, where Omar received a subsidized education and ended up a congresswoman“.
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    What’s the word for that kind of person...ingrate?
    Thank-you for providing Exhibit A.....perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Something to think about.
    Our country has been around for about 250 years. Others have existed for
    hundreds, some for thousands.
    How many other countries had governments formed that did away with slavery,
    gender inequity, silencing certain races and females from voting/having a say
    in their politics all within 200 years of their founding?
    By comparison, we did it in record time. Now it seems people are bored with being
    satisfied, thankful and are in the stage of seeking utopian perfection instead of simply living
    in freedom and fixing things when they're actually broken. Now some people want to
    elevate tribal identity to the point that it's the true measure of a life's worth.
    Some can't be simply satisfied with who they are as a human being the same as everyone else.
    We were fortunate to be hatched in the Age of Enlightenment, the heavy lifting had already been done by older societies. The great thing is, we can continue to improve on this society and truly make it equal for all people.

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    So those other countries had all our freedoms as I mentioned long before we were a nation.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
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    Omar going nuts again today. Her priority is to be a nightmare to the President. I doubt he's losing sleep.
    She is the most selfish, self-centered piece of work I've ever seen. She and the others never have a smile on their
    face or an optimistic message or seemed focused on the job they got hired to do...the every day job of
    showing up at the office and work on down to earth projects, bills and laws for her constituents. If she wants
    to be some SJW and community organizer, then quit Congress and take her ideological self out to the streets.
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    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Omar going nuts again today. Her priority is to be a nightmare to the President. I doubt he's losing sleep.
    She is the most selfish, self-centered piece of work I've ever seen. She and the others never have a smile on their
    face or an optimistic message or seemed focused on the job they got hired to do...the every day job of
    showing up at the office and work on down to earth projects, bills and laws for her constituents. If she wants
    to be some SJW and community organizer, then quit Congress and take her ideological self out to the streets.
    she's a gift to the president, a nightmare for Nancy..........

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