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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In other words, you don't think rights are absolute just privileges, unlike you claimed previously?

    If, as you've claimed, someone has a fundamental, absolute right to eat and you deny them what you have because you claim property rights, your claims of eating being fundamental are invalid. Either that, or your simply don't have a clue and are acting like a 2 year old that thinks he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants.
    hey idiot, you have a fundamental right to bear arms, but does that give you the right to take anyone elses firearm? the same principle applies, moron.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The Supreme Court. In over two hundred years the SCOTUS could never define what the Founding Fathers meant with the prefatory clause, hadn't you ever noticed that none of those Courts ever confirmed what you think the Second Amendment means?
    you have zero context. NUMEROUS federal and state court decisions confirmed the 2nd Amendment as an individual right. the SCOTUS has no power to define the prefatory clause. the founders defined it with the NUMEROUS pieces of historical documentation and quotes that have been provided to you over and over again.

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    Then along comes the Roberts Court in the Heller Case, I should say Scalia's Court since it was all him. The supposed great proponent of "orginalism" convinced the Court that since prior Courts couldn't explain the prefatory clause that they had the right to just skip over it, so much for attempting to determine what the Founding Fathers were thinking when they authored the Amendment
    the scalia court didn't skip over it. they didn't need to touch it because it had already been defined as I stated above.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    This case is not about a constitutional right but a Texas law which allows carrying long guns in public. The court changed the meaning of the law without justification. The law already regulated the act.
    not even close. the case wasn't even about a law carrying long guns in public, it was about redefining 'calculated to alarm' (which should mean brandishing or threatening gestures) to 'likely to alarm' which means if anyone is frightened because of their sensibilies, which totally revamps an already vague disorderly conduct statute
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    The phrase "...likely to alarm..." is arbitrary and subjective, which means it will probably be overturned.
    hopefully. the problem is twofold...........the criminal court of appeals is the highest court that can hear this in the state sytem, so the appeal needs to go to the federal court system which is way more expensive
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    No right is absolute, dumbfuck. Just another fallacy you pull out of your rectum.
    then they are not rights, just privileges to be modified or removed at the will of the government. but you hate rights, so you probably prefer that.

    rights ARE absolute, dicksucker
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    SCOTUS decisions on the 2nd says so, moron. As well as other decisions on other rights. We’ve been down this road before.

    Other than your idiotic opinion, where does the Constitution say they ARE absolute?

    Dumbfuck
    your idiocy is showing again. the constitution limits the government, it does not define our rights, or their limits. that is because our rights are absolute, which is why you see 'SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED'..........so federal gun regulations based on the commerce clause are unconstitutional and should be null and void, but you'd like to see your enemies killed by the government, wouldn't you, traitor?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Why is it you people can't recognize the fact that Constitutional rights can be regulated, that no right, none, are absolute, ever one can be, and are, regulated, simple fact. Carrying long guns in public can be legally regulated
    Why can't you people stop trying to FORCE YOUR CHOICES on EVERYONE ELSE?
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    They do, it is their major role, can you cite us another entity anywhere that has the last word on Constitutional matters?
    the last word on the constitution is the entity that wrote it.....................that would be we the people.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yurt View Post
    The Court changed the law. They are to interpret the law, not make law.

    Calculated and likely are two very different terms. Hopefully Texas Supreme Court overturns this horrible ruling.
    the TX supreme court cannot hear this case. the criminal court of appeals is the highest state court for criminal cases. this will need to go to the federal system
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the TX supreme court cannot hear this case. the criminal court of appeals is the highest state court for criminal cases. this will need to go to the federal system
    Why can't they?

    Even if the issue is a Federal one, they can still hear the case and make a ruling so long as the underlying issue involves a state claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    If the Founding Fathers had wanted limits on the Second Amendment, they would have placed them there.
    Poor Earl. You really should finish fifth grade before trying to discuss things with the adults.

    A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    hopefully. the problem is twofold...........the criminal court of appeals is the highest court that can hear this in the state sytem, so the appeal needs to go to the federal court system which is way more expensive
    I don't think the federal courts have jurisdiction to hear state laws unless they involve a constitutional issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    false equivalency. and that's pretty ironic, you being an abortion supporter calling ME the babykiller LOL
    Save The Fetus/Screw The Child

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Poor Earl. You really should finish fifth grade before trying to discuss things with the adults.

    A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
    What part of:

    The right of the people

    Do you not understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think the federal courts have jurisdiction to hear state laws unless they involve a constitutional issue.
    True, but I'm pretty sure he is arguing a 2nd amendment issue.

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