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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The Texas Supreme Court only hears civil cases.
    So what court is the highest authority for criminal cases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    your argument is dead racist assholes


    you are not the we
    No court has the authority to interpret or change the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    boom


    you are fucked by the facts
    Not a fact. A false authority fallacy. Learn what a fact is. A 'fact' is not a Universal Truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the facts fuck you hard


    you cant even remember the name of the case I just handed you huh russo bot hole
    Not a fact. A false authority fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is because you are one of the few who believe the Bill of Rights are absolute and cannot be regulated.
    False equivalence fallacy. No one is arguing the Bill of Rights is nothing but inherent rights. It is not an exhaustive list of rights either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Do you believe, for example, that the 1st freedom of the press cannot prohibit pictures of child pornography or allow libel laws?
    The 1st amendment prohibits the federal government from passing laws banning pictures of child pornography or pass any libel law.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    These are both regulations although the 1st says "no law" which is as absolute as "shall not be infringed."
    Neither are absolute rights. False equivalence fallacy. States may pass laws concerning libel or child pornography. The 1st amendment does not apply to the States and is not binding on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Do you also think convicted murderers shall have the same rights to own and carry weapons as everybody else?
    They already do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You mean like how you baby killers gladly accept laws regulating abortion?
    Don't ever count your chickens until they hatch BOY! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yurt View Post
    So what court is the highest authority for criminal cases?
    Court of Criminal Appeals (that made the ruling in the case under discussion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is because you are one of the few who believe the Bill of Rights are absolute and cannot be regulated.
    rights that are 'regulated' are not rights, but privileges. It is the height of stupidity to believe that the frarmers and colonists would give power to a new government to 'regulate' their rights after having won independence from a government that 'regulated' their rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Do you believe, for example, that the 1st freedom of the press cannot prohibit pictures of child pornography or allow libel laws? These are both regulations although the 1st says "no law" which is as absolute as "shall not be infringed."
    A common misconception that the whole 'rights can be regulated' crowd is the idea that absolute rights mean you can do any damn thing you please............where you got that bullshit idea is probably based in the mental disease that is liberalism. Individual rights are absolute because they don't include the ability to infringe on the rights of others...........but i'm sure you'll find some idiocy that you'll believe justifies your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Do you also think convicted murderers shall have the same rights to own and carry weapons as everybody else?
    if they can't be trusted with a weapon, they can't be trusted in public. If a convicted murderer or rapist is allowed back in to society again, it should be done with the belief that they will not offend again and have all of their rights restored. Otherwise, they should remain incarcerated.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is not an opinion. It is the law. Unless they want to completely ban weapons, any jurisdiction can pass about any gun control law wanted and many states have done so (assault weapon bans, background checks, etc.). Those jurisdictions that don't have such laws is because they choose politically not to do so---it is not because the 2nd has been interpreted in a way to prevent these regulations.
    given this position, then, it should stand to reason that threats of violent rebellion would make it too politically expensive to make gun laws, right?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    rights that are 'regulated' are not rights, but privileges. It is the height of stupidity to believe that the frarmers and colonists would give power to a new government to 'regulate' their rights after having won independence from a government that 'regulated' their rights.

    They didn't include those rights at all. The Bill of Rights was only added after the Constitution was ratified as a deal to get opponents to ratify it. They did not think any of those restrictions on federal power were necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    A common misconception that the whole 'rights can be regulated' crowd is the idea that absolute rights mean you can do any damn thing you please............where you got that bullshit idea is probably based in the mental disease that is liberalism. Individual rights are absolute because they don't include the ability to infringe on the rights of others...........but i'm sure you'll find some idiocy that you'll believe justifies your position.
    What keeps you from being able to do any damn thing you please by publishing pictures of child pornography or infringing on the rights of others? Criminal laws prevent you from doing that. A criminal law making it illegal to publish child pornography is a regulation. Therefore, you argue against your own case.

    You say our rights (free press) cannot be regulated but then claim those rights can be restricted. When the 1st says "no law" shall abridge free press you are saying laws can abridge (infringe) the right of a person to publish child pornography. In your definition, that means free press is a privilege and not a right.

    You are simply agreeing with the views of most Americans and posters who believe our rights are not absolute and can be restricted and those restrictions are based on court interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What keeps you from being able to do any damn thing you please by publishing pictures of child pornography or infringing on the rights of others? Criminal laws prevent you from doing that. A criminal law making it illegal to publish child pornography is a regulation. Therefore, you argue against your own case.
    ridiculous argument. Are you saying that if those laws didn't exist, people would have the right to publish child pornography?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You say our rights (free press) cannot be regulated but then claim those rights can be restricted. When the 1st says "no law" shall abridge free press you are saying laws can abridge (infringe) the right of a person to publish child pornography. In your definition, that means free press is a privilege and not a right.

    You are simply agreeing with the views of most Americans and posters who believe our rights are not absolute and can be restricted and those restrictions are based on court interpretation.
    you are confused on what rights are. especially given the fact that I've told you that your rights don't allow you to harm others.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    ridiculous argument. Are you saying that if those laws didn't exist, people would have the right to publish child pornography?????
    If it was a right that could not be abridged then the laws would not exist because government would declare them unconstitutional--that is what a right means.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you are confused on what rights are. especially given the fact that I've told you that your rights don't allow you to harm others.
    Yes, you cannot harm others because criminal laws prevent it. Those are regulations of our rights.

    Assume the child pornography consists of pictures of nude children not engaged in any sexual activities taken by their parents. Whose rights are being harmed if those pictures are published? What if it is computer generated child pornography not involving any real children--whose rights are being harmed.

    You see examples of behavior which you do not approve of but refuse to admit that behavior can be regulated if it is one of our rights. Is "hate speech" harming others? It cannot be regulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    If it was a right that could not be abridged then the laws would not exist because government would declare them unconstitutional--that is what a right means.
    it is confirmed that you have no clue what rights are.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Don't ever count your chickens until they hatch BOY! LOL!
    The chickens have already hatched and, unlike you, I can count them, BOY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    it is confirmed that you have no clue what rights are.
    It is clear that no one should trust a dishonorably discharged disgrace like you with anything he says.

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