Re. 3. Atta was under surveillance earlier
Public know little of other 18 terrorists but Atta. He was the most familier one for people among 19 terrorists.Such like his background; his student life in Hamburg, German; "his allergy hands"; "his visiting crop dust plane"; "his visit to Czech"; and his passport was even found two blocks away from WTC after 911 attack....Newspaper called him terrorist leader as if they had taken part in the terrorists' meeting. But how could they know he was the leader, not the others?
Intelligence always benefited from terrorist attack.(more police power and increased budget) In anthrax attack, they released an information that 911 terrorist leader Atta had made contact to Iraq diplomat. They discussed a plot of bombing US broadcast station. I think the release of information was on purpose that Iraq had connection to terrorist so there was excuse to extend war to Iraq. But this also meant terrorist leader Atta's talking was eavesdropped. And he was under surveillance of intelligence at least as early as this spring. Do you believe that intelligence knew nothing of 911 bombing in advance?
Re. 4. A war without evidence given
Mystery informant and evidence
If you still remember when Bush started war in Afghan, they didn't show people the evidence that OBL was behind 911. They said they had evidence, but couldn't make it public for the sake of safety of informant. Now, after eight months, where was that informant and evidence? Was he still with OBL? If so, why couldn't we capture OBL? There is another explanation, they did have evidence that OBL would attack. So there was such "threat assessment" for charted plane. And they need it like 'Perl Harbour' in WW2. They couldn't show it to people otherwise it also revealing they knew attack in advance. Perhaps that's why they want a military court. Perhaps that's why there is little news activity from Afghan. Most we got are from Army's saying. They want to bury the truth forever.
Re. 5. Culture of FBI
A lot of sources said there were more accomplices involved in OKC bombing. And after Waco event, FBI had penetrated militia organizations. Quote, "Some time prior to the bombing, the DEA planned a raid on Elohim City, from which McVeigh is alleged to have worked out his plans. but the FBI warned the DEA not to make their raid, because the FBI had "an informant in place" (http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/f...arwh080601.htm)
The motive of OKC bombing by McVeigh is to revenge government's injustice in Waco. His target was FBI and BATF in Murrah Federal Building. Yet on that day, all staffs of FBI and BATF were absent. They knew the bombing in advance. Other federal employees became scapegoat.
The content of "Patriot Act" which G.A. Ashcroft proposed after 911 attack had been proposed by FBI director Freeh after OKC bombing. Freeh failed to pass his proposal but Ashcroft succeeded. Perhaps with the help of anthrax attack. From two similar terrorist events, we can see the culture of FBI. They value their lives very much, they absented in office on OKC bombing day, they gave a 'threat assessment' for their boss before 911 attack. (fact) They tried to get more police power from the panic of terror attack (motive) and neglected public lives' loss. As a matter of fact, only the huge loss made people give away their civil right to FBI.
Re. 6. Who need this terror attack and war?
When I first published "FBI knew terror attack in advance", I got an intimidation from someone said that now it's in war times, "even the paranoid and conspiratorialist 'warnings' must be handled judiciously." That's the point. They need "war times" so they can do whatever they want to do to their dislikes. And who are benefit from this attack? President got high approve rate, intelligence got extended police power, Pentagon got a fat budget. Who are the loser? Civil liberty eroded, budget turned into deficit from surplus. And they even try to tap the social security fund which will face a financial crisis 20 years later. Yet they make this war endless. OBL is still at large. Iraq is on the waiting list. Perhaps Iran.... . Who benefit from it?
Re 7. Padilla and OKC bombing (6/15)
On June 10, Ashcroft announced arrest of Padilla for dirty bomb plot. Then there was an interesting discovery on Padilla in internet. People found he is identical to John Doe, alleged accomplice of McVeigh in OKC bombing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/697881/posts
From another angle:
In my opinion, FBI had their informant everywhere. They penetrated militia organization and Arabs too. I think they knew OKC bombing and 911 attack in advance but didn't say it. Because they could benefit from it.
It's no surprise if Padilla could be an informant recruited when he was in jail. To work for an Pakistanian food owner two years was the first step to penetrate into Arab world. Just think he was with Zubaydah then Zubaydah was arrested in Pakistan. Also think why government insisted McVeigh acting alone in OKC bombing while a lot of source said there were more accomplice and informant.
Padilla's arrest is unusual. There is no evidence, said only resemble to what Zubaydah's description whom was not considered as cooperating witness. But it made Ashcroft to announce his arrest in Moscow. And also made Bush sign a directive naming him as enemy combatant and put him into military custody until "war against terror" is over.
I posted a message like this in TB2000.com on 6/13, next day I was banned from that forum.
Re. 8. FBI knew Heaven's Gate suicide in advance
FBI have their informants everywhere especially in social, political, religious groups and organization. Some resulted tragedy like Waco, Jude Bary's environment group, Ruby Ridge, OKC bombing. But there were much more unknown to the public.
I've talked about relative R whom had urged me to install false teeth. (see #58.Manipulating media and killing by radiation) I didn't follow her advice. Later for several times she laughed at me publicly that, "It's ugly to see the openness of missing teeth when you're laughing." She is the only person taking so much attention on my missing teeth. I took it as tactic to push me for a false teeth and neglected it.
In a family re-union, once we talked about the disease some acquaintance had had which resulted in ambulance service. R suddenly said "Maybe because aliens will come?" She repeated this which caused my notice. R interested in TV series(Chinese one) and is familiar with movie star's news. But Aliens, UFO, was never a topic even among us. We thought it's absurd. I thought then, perhaps the agents tried to attribute the disease to Aliens, a new tactic? Soon, in March 1997, a mass suicide of Heaven's Gate happened. 35 people suicided at the thought of "Aliens in space craft are coming to pick them up". I was immediately aware of the meaning of R's 'Alien' theory. Then in a reunion, when we talked about the absurd suicide of Heaven's Gate member, R flaunted, "Look, I had said it was alien, hadn't I?" That's the only two times I heard of her talking about Aliens.
Accustomed to unbridle power, agents used to flaunt their ability. When I complained they committing murder, they even sent a message "So what, they even killed President Kennedy". To show off their ability to control everything, they sometimes forecast to informant that they knew everything. Like what happened in BBC. (see #65. Birthday Party on May 3) But it's not a surprise that they ignore lives of innocent people. (compare with OKC's victims) Perhaps they could benefit from the deaths, from personal treasure to credit cards, or could set their resource for another group's surveillance?
Re. 9. Ashcroft in Moscow
Secret police have their own deals. It's convenient to commit crime by the hands of foreign hands. I have experience of this. Then what does Ashcroft want secret police of Russia do?
India suddenly changed its attitude to Pakistan. The war threaten demolished. War or peace, only depends on leaders' desire. US government must have activate large resource to mediate.
I speculate there will be a big operation in Pakistan. Or probably there will be a big terror attack which government had said,"Bombing is inevitable." This administration, especially intelligence, are under criticize for failure of 911 warning. They need a big event to diverge the pressure. What can OBL and Al-quada do? From embassy's bombing, 'Cool' vessel's bombing, 911, to recent bombing of Consulate in Pakistan, were all simple: by powder or hi-jacked airplane. In a land which is so poor that even unable to produce glass cup, I don't think they have any high-tech, bio-tech weapons. Even when they lost war in Afghanistan, I didn't see they had shoot a missile which said given by CIA before. So if there is such an attack, the weaponry, possibly a dirty bomb, the radioactive material may came from Russia. I speculate.
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