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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Exactly!
    I find it strange that leftists use the example of a mere 4 prominent founders to paint the entire founding of the US as being Secular Humanist in nature.

    History is just an ILLUSION....until its revised with left wing propaganda. LMAO. Reality: The Unites States of America came from the fact that PEOPLE were fleeing Europe in search of Religious Freedom, as evidenced in history actual. The United States was the first nation on earth to be founded by "PROTESTANTS"......The US was founded upon the principle of religious freedom, the peoples transcending right to worship how they wished, not how the state mandated. Today, there are over 900 different types of religion being worshiped freely in the United States, ranging from Christianity to Islam to Buddhism, Hinduism, even to the worshiping of the GREAT SPIRIT by native Americans...etc., In fact the very first amendment to the US CONSTITUION guarantees FREEDOM of RELIGION not freedom from religion.

    In fact the Constitution makes it unambiguously clear with Article Vl of the 1st amendment...."No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to hold office...…."

    Preceding the US Constitution there was a history of many legal compact agreements among THE PEOPLE that founded the United States of America. The first legal governing compact was the MAYFLOWER COMPACT that was drafted to govern the original PROTESTANTS fleeing religious persecution.

    History Actual points to the fact that William Blackstone and his "Commentaries on the Laws of England"......influenced the US system of legal jurisprudence more than any other legal ideology. Blackstone mirrored his government principles from the Judeo/Christian philosophy that can be easily seen first and foremost in constituting a SEPERATION OF POWERS in 3 distinct bodies of government. Established via text found in the Holy Scriptures.

    Its very easy to document the historical fact that Blackstone influenced the founding principles of the United States of America.....its just as easy to document that Blackstone was influenced by the Holy Scriptures in writing his "Commentaries on the Laws of England".....that the authors of the Untied States Constitution used as a reference in formatting the US system of Checks and Balances in order to curtail human corruption.

    Simply read the history of William Blackstone and you will find the idea of the American Justice System and its oversight protections...that include a separation of powers. https://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/...lackstone.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    I find it strange that leftists use the example of a mere 4 prominent founders to paint the entire founding of the US as being Secular Humanist in nature.

    History is just an ILLUSION....until its revised with left wing propaganda. LMAO. Reality: The Unites States of America came from the fact that PEOPLE were fleeing Europe in search of Religious Freedom, as evidenced in history actual. The United States was the first nation on earth to be founded by "PROTESTANTS"......The US was founded upon the principle of religious freedom, the peoples transcending right to worship how they wished, not how the state mandated. Today, there are over 900 different types of religion being worshiped freely in the United States, ranging from Christianity to Islam to Buddhism, Hinduism, even to the worshiping of the GREAT SPIRIT by native Americans...etc., In fact the very first amendment to the US CONSTITUION guarantees FREEDOM of RELIGION not freedom from religion.

    In fact the Constitution makes it unambiguously clear with Article Vl of the 1st amendment...."No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to hold office...…."

    Preceding the US Constitution there was a history of many legal compact agreements among THE PEOPLE that founded the United States of America. The first legal governing compact was the MAYFLOWER COMPACT that was drafted to govern the original PROTESTANTS fleeing religious persecution.

    History Actual points to the fact that William Blackstone and his "Commentaries on the Laws of England"......influenced the US system of legal jurisprudence more than any other legal ideology. Blackstone mirrored his government principles from the Judeo/Christian philosophy that can be easily seen first and foremost in constituting a SEPERATION OF POWERS in 3 distinct bodies of government. Established via text found in the Holy Scriptures.

    Its very easy to document the historical fact that Blackstone influenced the founding principles of the United States of America.....its just as easy to document that Blackstone was influenced by the Holy Scriptures in writing his "Commentaries on the Laws of England".....that the authors of the Untied States Constitution used as a reference in formatting the US system of Checks and Balances in order to curtail human corruption.

    Simply read the history of William Blackstone and you will find the idea of the American Justice System and its oversight protections...that include a separation of powers. https://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/...lackstone.html
    It is not "secular humanist," but as you noted, "freedom of religion," or no religion if desired, and "not how the state mandated," separation of church and state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Nothing government does is "unalienable."
    True, which is why rights aren't unalienable. They can be taken away.
    Like Benjamin Franklin said, America is "a Republic.... if you can keep it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    where did you come up with this bullshit?
    The government can take away our rights. Thankfully, we have elections, so we have a say. But ultimately it's the government that decides what's legal or illegal.

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    Not at all, only for insurgency and revolution.

    If you are an organicist of COTUS, the DoI does not count. If you are a living document kind of guy, then the DoI does not count.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Tell that to the millions who have died at the hands of their governments. Another mental midget who remains uneducated by our liberal educational establishment.
    Can you ever have a discussion without peeing yourself in anger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    TAUGHT..........taught from what? from who? My parents didn't go to church, and I only went for a few months, but I know right from wrong............and it wasn't learned from a church that had a pedophile as it's pastor
    Perhaps your parents should have considered abortion? So you weren't taught right from wrong? You were born with that knowledge. STFU dumbass.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the founders have many statements about the rights of the people and that there is no 'list' of them............
    the constitution is a legal document that provides the framework of the federal government. end of story.
    Blah, blah, blah, blah.....I get it. You hate facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    guaranteed and defined are two different things/issues in constitutional context.
    There are no guarantees in life. That is naive and stupid.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is not "secular humanist," but as you noted, "freedom of religion," or no religion if desired, and "not how the state mandated," separation of church and state
    There is no separation clause you willful idiot.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Can you ever have a discussion without peeing yourself in anger?
    Can you ever have one without looking stupid and crying like a baby?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Your Mommy's calling you child!
    Your concession is noted.

    Loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    we're all still waiting for you to produce ANY historical documentation that exposes Madisons collusion that has him saying 'fucked ya' to the people at large during ratification
    That was Jefferson, cockbite.

    BTW, Madison’s BofR was nothing more than a political tool to get him elected. Nothing special.

    Moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Can you ever have a discussion without peeing yourself in anger?
    Probably not, so why waste any time w/ him??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Can you ever have a discussion without peeing yourself in anger?
    Probably not, so why waste any time w/ him?? He probably maxed out shortly after puberty...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Leftist believe Men are the universe's "HIGHEST" power, right? That's why leftist should never, ever control the seats of any governance anywhere. They have zero principles, conscience or integrity, they're simply power lusting tyrants!
    When has God ever stepped in to protect anyone's rights? Righties should never, ever control the seats of any governance anywhere. They have no connection to reality and their only immutable principle is greed.

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