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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Christians are to obey human law except where that human law violates God's Law. Our supreme duty is to obey God. Since God tells us to also obey human laws, we should. But, when they come in conflict, we are to "obey God rather than men."

    [bunch of out of context stuff]
    So Jesus said to care for the poor, those who hunger and thirst, the sick, the imprisoned, the strangers, etc. Is He not God? Tell us again how you justify defying that in modern times?

    Now you will declare that He didn't really say that, not the way we unwashed heathens think, because out of context.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So Jesus said to care for the poor, those who hunger and thirst, the sick, the imprisoned, the strangers, etc. Is He not God? Tell us again how you justify defying that in modern times?

    Now you will declare that He didn't really say that, not the way we unwashed heathens think, because out of context.

    He said only if you want to.........

    He also said that the gubment giving help to those that are ignored by society AND THE CHURCH, shouldn't recieve assisance from the gubment, to do so is evil in the sight of the Lord.....
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So Jesus said to care for the poor, those who hunger and thirst, the sick, the imprisoned, the strangers, etc. Is He not God? Tell us again how you justify defying that in modern times?

    Now you will declare that He didn't really say that, not the way we unwashed heathens think, because out of context.

    Get over it already. Talk about owls or something you know about.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Get over it already. Talk about owls or something you know about.
    Jesus: You're doing him wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    He said only if you want to.........

    He also said that the gubment giving help to those that are ignored by society AND THE CHURCH, shouldn't recieve assisance from the gubment, to do so is evil in the sight of the Lord.....
    Apparently so. There's no surprise why secularism is growing in America and Xtianity is slowly going the way of the Druids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Jesus: You're doing him wrong.
    Knock off the preaching. I hear that Libs hate that.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Apparently so. There's no surprise why secularism is growing in America and Xtianity is slowly going the way of the Druids.
    Some of the liberals must not know about Christianity dying out because they keep using it to make partisan political points. They think if Jesus said something he is some kind of authority figure. Religion does determine our political views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Apparently so. There's no surprise why secularism is growing in America and Xtianity is slowly going the way of the Druids.
    Sadly many of them, IMHO, have become that which they hate....

    They don't come to talk about Jesus, but to talk about trump, their political party....

    Not love & free will, but the laws/courts etc-like their fathers the Pharisees
    ..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Some of the liberals must not know about Christianity dying out because they keep using it to make partisan political points. They think if Jesus said something he is some kind of authority figure. Religion does determine our political views.
    Of course it does. So does our education (or lack thereof), our parents' beliefs, friends/family/colleagues' opinions, etc.

    When discussing things with those who take the word of god/Jesus literally, because they see Him as an "authority figure," we will often quote from their holy book to show that in our opinion, they are misguided, if not flat out wrong. That's when the circus really gets going, as they do contortions, back flips, and back themselves into the lions' cage trying to defend their errors.

    Oh dear. I mentioned lions. How unforgiveable of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Sadly many of them, IMHO, have become that which they hate....

    They don't come to talk about Jesus, but to talk about trump, their political party....

    Not love & free will, but the laws/courts etc-like their fathers the Pharisees
    ..
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine that.......coming to a political forum to talk about politics!!!!
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Of course it does. So does our education (or lack thereof), our parents' beliefs, friends/family/colleagues' opinions, etc.

    When discussing things with those who take the word of god/Jesus literally, because they see Him as an "authority figure," we will often quote from their holy book to show that in our opinion, they are misguided, if not flat out wrong. That's when the circus really gets going, as they do contortions, back flips, and back themselves into the lions' cage trying to defend their errors.

    Oh dear. I mentioned lions. How unforgiveable of me.
    I meant religion should not dictate governmental policy. A person's political views are not wrong because of anything the Bible says.

    Could you provide an example of a poster "defending their errors"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Sadly many of them, IMHO, have become that which they hate....

    They don't come to talk about Jesus, but to talk about trump, their political party....

    Not love & free will, but the laws/courts etc-like their fathers the Pharisees
    ..
    Ironic, isn't it? Like Stretch's Bible-quoting (out of context! oh the agony lol) meant to excuse her and her ilk from NOT following the Word of God, Post #324, by NOT doing as Jesus commanded the faithful. When she retires from obscure message forum preaching, she's got a great job waiting for her with Cirque du Soleil.

    Basically these kind of religionists are just lazy, like most of the human race. It's a lot easier to run around proclaiming one's allegiance to some cause or faith or cult. It's a lot harder to actually do what's supposed to be required to actually be a member. Kind of like the person who claims to be working in animal rescue, but who does nothing but sit at home day after day posting sad animal shares on social media. Or the social justice activist whose only real activity is signing on-line petitions and sharing them with other social justice slackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I meant religion should not dictate governmental policy. A person's political views are not wrong because of anything the Bible says.
    I see. So you also support separation of church and state?

    Could you provide an example of a poster "defending their errors"?
    If you read Stretch's posts on this thread, you'll see exactly what I mean. When it is pointed out that her failure to speak up against the ill treatment of the illegals being rounded up is contrary to Jesus's teachings, she claims that only SHE knows the REAL word of god and the rest of us are taking everything from the Bible out of context. The take-away is that if the govt. is doing something evil and anti-Scripture, it's okay because Jesus said to ignore that govt. stuff. Those kind of evangelicals would have been quite at home in 1930s Germany, or 1800s America.

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    Give them a bill for part of the National Debt...your grand kids will thank you.

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    So Bill Deblasio is a Saint!

    NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio: '“Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's Plenty of Money in This Country, It's Just in the Wrong Hands'

    There's so many Saints who say Your money is in the wrong Hands...

    Midtown shelter near Billionaires’ Row clears legal hurdle as some residents object
    The West 58th Street shelter is one of 90 shelters the city plans to open under Mayor Bill de Blasio’s “Turning the Tide” initiative to alleviate the homeless crisis in the city.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/manhatt...al-11560380518

    For Richards, who represents Far Rockaway, Hollis and Springfield Gardens, this is simply unfair. His district hosts nearly 3,000 shelter beds — the most in the city, data show. Most of these homeless families and individuals stay in hotels that cost on average $350 a night. In a one block area near JFK Airport off South Conduit, there are four hotels housing hundreds of homeless individuals — Days Inn, Holiday Inn, Best Western and Metro Inn.
    His district has a relatively low poverty rate (between 8% and 20%), but communities with high levels of poverty also bear this burden far more than affluent zip codes.
    Of the top 20 community districts with the highest number of homeless beds/units, 15 have poverty rates over 20%. Six have poverty rates over 50%.
    The mayor, who has watched the number of homeless in city shelters rise from 53,000 to over 60,000 during his tenure, is struggling to reverse the course in a balanced way.
    In unveiling his latest blueprint for reform Feb. 28, he vowed to shut down the cluster sites and hotels and build 90 new shelters citywide through 2021 but promised to try and distribute the burden across all neighborhoods, whether rich or poor...

    "I like the ideas of keeping people in their communities," said Richards. "But at the end of the day, you can find places where there are adequate schools, where there are opportunities and housing that's affordable."
    When de Blasio tried to turn a hotel into a 110-unit men's shelter in predominantly white, middle income Maspeth, Queens last fall, the neighborhood erupted. Protestors ultimately forced the provider who was going to run the shelter to pull out.
    Last week, furious residents of Crown Heights, Brooklyn, cited the Maspeth reversal as they contested a new men's shelter set to open soon in their neighborhood during a public hearing. Residents of Brooklyn's Community Board 8, which is 67% black with a poverty rate of 26%, railed against what they called an oversaturation of shelters in their neighborhood. They have 679 beds.

    Some have demanded that new shelters be placed in more affluent neighborhoods with few shelters, such as the mayor's neighborhood, Park Slope. The mayor's Community District 6 is 75% white and host to a relatively modest 267 beds.
    "Go into communities that have zero that have not had their fair share. Have them address this," said Richards.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...icle-1.2995360

    NYS Govenor Coumo:
    "America was never great"


    So many Saints at the door knocking.
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