Another Primer on the 14th Amendment...

[Into the Night]

Hello Flash,

Thank you. It is true that most asylum seekers DO appear for their hearings.

Contexomy fallacy. He is talking about illegal immigration, not asylum seekers.

That is not true. We can do a lot. We have many government programs which have made a huge difference. Millions of Americans would be destitute without the Great Society programs and many others.

The 'Great Society' programs of President Johnson CAUSED many to be destitute.

Many American cities have seen a reduction in violent crimes.

WRONG. While murder rates have gone down (thankfully!), violent crime is on the rise.
[QUOTE=PoliTalker;3150160
This is no time to give up just because 100% effectiveness has not been achieved.[/QUOTE]
So you WANT the cities of homeless tents, the rape, the assaults, the thefts, the gangs, etc. to continue.

We can address those problems with effective solutions here in the USA and in Central America. We can help them, and in so doing, we will be helping ourselves.

We are neither helping them nor us.

We are learning that stringent drug laws with heavy mandatory sentencing have adversely affected people of color and the poor, and have not been effective in curbing drug abuse.

Bigotry. Racism.

We are learning that the US cannot lock up people as a way of solving social issues.

So we should let the thieves and murderers out of jail, yes?

We are learning that treating drug abuse as a crime instead of the illness it is leads to expensive and ineffective results.

It is neither a crime nor an illness. It's simply a bad choice.

Do we know everything? Are we perfect? Have all our ideas worked out the first time we tried them? Of course not, but that is no reason to stop trying. It only means we need to take what we have learned and apply it better the next time. If at first you do not succeed, the thing to do is not give up.

Repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity.

Successful people know that the thing to do is alter your approach and try again.

No, insane people do that. Successful people solve a problem rather than doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result.

These are social issues.

A lot of things are social issues. Divisional error fallacy.

Taking care of society is in our best interest because guess we live in society.

Circular argument fallacy. You are attempting a proof using a circular argument.

[USFREEDOM911]

It is neither a crime nor an illness. It's simply a bad choice.

I don't care what drug someone chooses to do; but I do have a problem with what so many of them do to support their usage, which in itself is normally a crime, and should be treated as such.

[Minister of Truth]

Hello Howard the Duck,



Success is often the result of trying something, seeing how it works, learning from the effort, modifying the approach, and trying again.

Killing an attempt to accomplish meaningful results, being negative, refusing to listen, refusing to try rarely leads to a good result. It is understandable that the left is not impressed with how this administration is handling immigration of desperation.

It's not impressed because the administration doesn't have a policy of open borders.

[Into the Night]

I don't care what drug someone chooses to do; but I do have a problem with what so many of them do to support their usage, which in itself is normally a crime, and should be treated as such.

Nothing wrong with that.

[Into the Night]

It's not impressed because the administration doesn't have a policy of open borders.

Why should they? Why do YOU want people to cross indiscriminately at will? Don't you think it's worth checking to see if they are carrying a disease, loyal to enemies of the United States, packing weapons or materials for bomb making, or smuggling child slaves?

[Minister of Truth]

Why should they? Why do YOU want people to cross indiscriminately at will? Don't you think it's worth checking to see if they are carrying a disease, loyal to enemies of the United States, packing weapons or materials for bomb making, or smuggling child slaves?

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

[Into the Night]

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

Why do YOU want people to cross indiscriminately at will? Don't you think it's worth checking to see if they are carrying a disease, loyal to enemies of the United States, packing weapons or materials for bomb making, or smuggling child slaves?

[Minister of Truth]

Killing an attempt to accomplish meaningful results, being negative, refusing to listen, refusing to try rarely leads to a good result. It is understandable that the left is not impressed with how this administration is handling immigration of desperation.

It's not impressed because the administration doesn't have a policy of open borders.

Why should they? Why do YOU want people to cross indiscriminately at will? Don't you think it's worth checking to see if they are carrying a disease, loyal to enemies of the United States, packing weapons or materials for bomb making, or smuggling child slaves?

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

Why do YOU want people to cross indiscriminately at will? Don't you think it's worth checking to see if they are carrying a disease, loyal to enemies of the United States, packing weapons or materials for bomb making, or smuggling child slaves?

Let's try this again.

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

[Jarod]

All you Trumpers who hate our Constitution should LEAVE America.

[gfm7175]

All you Trumpers who hate our Constitution should LEAVE America.

Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one who hates our Constitution, and wants to change it.

For example, you were attempting to change the 14th Amendment (via omission) earlier in this thread...

[Jarod]

Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one who hates our Constitution, and wants to change it.

For example, you were attempting to change the 14th Amendment (via omission) earlier in this thread...

NO, I am educating you about what it clearly means.

I LOVE America and the promise it holds for the future, I want America to reach its promise.

You fuckers hate it and want to return it back from the progress we have made toward our full potential. GO BACK HOME.

[CFM]

All you Trumpers who hate our Constitution should LEAVE America.

That would amount to no one leaving.

[CFM]

NO, I am educating you about what it clearly means.

I LOVE America and the promise it holds for the future, I want America to reach its promise.

You fuckers hate it and want to return it back from the progress we have made toward our full potential. GO BACK HOME.

If you loved America, you wouldn't have voted the way you did in 2008, 2012, and 2016.

[Into the Night]

Let's try this again.

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

Okay. Thanks for enlarging the context.

[Into the Night]

All you Trumpers who hate our Constitution should LEAVE America.

What Trumpers hate our Constitution??