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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    actually the electricity payback for manufacturing solar cells is 4 years this is something an educated person would know
    A truly educated person knows that adding so much unreliable electricity generation to the existing power grid causes huge instability. This is why CCGT and hydro are vital as dispatchable forms of electricity. Renewables do not replace fossil fuels they just displace them and make the whole electricity supply network far more vulnerable to blackouts. Ask the Germans about that!!

    https://m.spiegel.de/international/g...a-1266586.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    A truly educated person knows that adding so much unreliable electricity generation to the existing power grid causes huge instability. This is why CCGT and hydro are vital as dispatchable forms of electricity. Renewables do not replace fossil fuels they just displace them and make the whole electricity supply network far more vulnerable to blackouts. Ask the Germans about that!!

    https://m.spiegel.de/international/g...a-1266586.html
    Closer to home, we suffered a massive blackout last week due to the failure of an offshore wind farm. This will.only get worse when old nuclear and coal fired power stations are shut down and not replaced.

    https://www.thegwpf.com/did-wind-far...e-uk-blackout/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    A truly educated person knows that adding so much unreliable electricity generation to the existing power grid causes huge instability. This is why CCGT and hydro are vital as dispatchable forms of electricity. Renewables do not replace fossil fuels they just displace them and make the whole electricity supply network far more vulnerable to blackouts. Ask the Germans about that!!

    https://m.spiegel.de/international/g...a-1266586.html
    poor planning for a renewable shift, along with opposition to high voltage power lines and windmills while not doing much about auto emissions.

    And nothing done about the coal plants.. why does it say nat gas is "only slightly better" then coal?
    Seems to me nat gas is clean and efficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    poor planning for a renewable shift, along with opposition to high voltage power lines and windmills while not doing much about auto emissions.

    And nothing done about the coal plants.. why does it say nat gas is "only slightly better" then coal?
    Seems to me nat gas is clean and efficient?
    Yeh that's bullshit, gas is way better than coal. It's bloody ironic that the Germans are shutting down nuclear and built many more brown coal power stations. Of course they are now relying more and more on the Russians for gas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Yeh that's bullshit, gas is way better than coal. It's bloody ironic that the Germans are shutting down nuclear and built many more brown coal.piwer stations. Of course now they are now relying more and more on the Russians for gas.
    Germany should have relied more on the Russians to begin with.
    Nordstream 2 is a very efficient and duty free way to deliver LNG to German terminals rather then transit thru Ukraine and pay duties

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Germany should have relied more on the Russians to begin with.
    Nordstream 2 is a very efficient and duty free way to deliver LNG to German terminals rather then transit thru Ukraine and pay duties
    It's never a good idea to rely on a potential enemy for your basic energy needs. There is abundant shale gas but Merkel has banned exploration to satisfy the Green loony tunes, having already agreed to phase out nuclear in a hasty and irrational response to Fukushima. Sadly the once highly pragmatic Germans have succumbed to their local Moonatic clones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    A truly educated person knows that adding so much unreliable electricity generation to the existing power grid causes huge instability. This is why CCGT and hydro are vital as dispatchable forms of electricity. Renewables do not replace fossil fuels they just displace them and make the whole electricity supply network far more vulnerable to blackouts. Ask the Germans about that!!

    https://m.spiegel.de/international/g...a-1266586.html

    you are being a moron...again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    It's never a good idea to rely on a potential enemy for your basic energy needs. There is abundant shale gas but Merkel has banned exploration to satisfy the Green loony tunes, having already agreed to phase out nuclear in a hasty and irrational response to Fukushima. Sadly the once highly pragmatic Germans have succumbed to their local Moonatic clones.
    Markel was a former energy official?

    Treating Russia like an existential threat means Russia must become an existential threat.
    Post USSR the goal was always Russian integration into the western economys

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Markel was a former energy official?

    Treating Russia like an existential threat means Russia must become an existential threat.
    Post USSR the goal was always Russian integration into the western economys
    Come on man!! The Energiewende was Merkel's answer to Fukushima and to keep the Greens onboard, surely you knew that?

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    2% of US energy is solar. You are just looking for shit to be skeered of

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    actually the electricity payback for manufacturing solar cells is 4 years this is something an educated person would know
    You're mal-educated. I don't know the assumptions behind your 4-year claim, but it's bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    You're mal-educated. I don't know the assumptions behind your 4-year claim, but it's bullshit.

    calling something you dont know about bullshit. Looking like a moron is your thing.

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    German Electricity Prices Soar, Now Most Expensive In Europe …Taxes, Green Surcharges Make Up 53.6% Of Price!

    Thanks to the Energiewende (transition to green energies), which is tantamount to a vegan energy diet, Germany’s electricity prices have soared 27% over the past decade to become the most expensive in Europe, if not the world, according to the STROM-REPORT

    https://notrickszone.com/2020/10/06/...53-6-of-price/

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    Solve the solar storage problem........or dumbkins like Comrade maggot will continue to profit from the destruction of planet Earth. There is no planet B.
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