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    Default 14 (or) MORE 'girls' come forward re sexual assault by EPSTEIN, NY and FLA...

    Tip of the iceberg. Just watch.

    New victims come forward as Epstein asks to be released from jail to his Manhattan mansion

    By Julie K. Brown and David Smiley, Miami Herald
    40 mins ago


    © New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services/Handout via REUTERS U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein appears in a photograph taken for the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services' sex offender registry March 28, 2017 and obtained by Reuters July 10, 2019. New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services/Handout via REUTERS.

    MIAMI — At least a dozen new women have come forward to claim they were sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein even as the multimillionaire money manager tries to persuade a federal judge to allow him to await a sex trafficking trial from the comfort of the same $77 million Manhattan mansion where he’s accused of luring teenage girls into unwanted sex acts.

    Following Epstein’s arrest Saturday in New Jersey, four women have reached out to New York lawyer David Boies, and at least 10 other women have approached other lawyers who have represented dozens of Epstein’s alleged victims in the past.Jack Scarola, a Palm Beach attorney, said at least five women, all of whom were minors at the time of their alleged encounters with Epstein, have reached out to either him or Fort Lauderdale lawyer Brad Edwards.

    “The people we are speaking to are underage victims in Florida and in New York. They are not individuals whose claims have previously been part of any law enforcement investigation,” Scarola said.

    The new accusers are surfacing as Epstein’s attorneys argue their client is being tried on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges that for the most part were resolved years ago in Palm Beach. His legal team filed a motion Thursday for pretrial release arguing that Epstein has maintained a “spotless” record since prosecutors in South Florida set aside a federal sex trafficking investigation a decade ago and allowed him to plead guilty to lesser state charges.

    Epstein’s attorneys want Senior U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman to free Epstein from his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan and allow him to await trial from the $77 million Upper East Side mansion where prosecutors say he abused dozens of girls from 2002 through 2005.

    Epstein, ahead of a Monday bond hearing, has offered to waive extradition rights and put up his Manhattan home and private jet as collateral. He also said he would consent to GPS monitoring, ground his jet, “demobilize” all his cars in New York and have trustees live in his home. And his brother, Mark Epstein, offered to put up his West Palm Beach home.

    But New York prosecutors — who say they found “an extraordinary volume of photographs of nude and partially nude young women and girls” while executing a search warrant at his Manhattan residence last weekend — have already argued that he’s likely to either flee the country or add to what they say are dozens of victims as young as 14 from New York to Palm Beach....



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    Let's see how long before Trump's KEYBOARD WARRIORS come in to defend!
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    WATERGATE - After Nixon's forced resignation, the many convictions/imprisoned

    Agnew, VP (resigned, convicted of crimes in MD) - R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (top) WH staff, both jailed,
    John Dean, WH counsel jailed - John Mitchell, ATTY GEN jailed, Howard Hunt & G. Gordon Liddy, WH staff, both jailed
    Charles Colson, Special Counsel, jailed - James McCord, 1972 Campaign DIR, jailed
    69 government officials charged, 48 found guilty,
    15 jailed for varying amounts






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    He's the Hannibal Lecter of pedophilia. Castrate him. His stinking brother and all these guys from the Trump train knew exactly what he was dong but they either participated or just looked on and said nothing.

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    No need, just put him in Genpop and sell pay-per-view...
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    Why do so many of the left think that any of us conservatives defend Epstein?
    I'm just waiting for the trial to start. Don't have much to say on it all yet.
    Just hope everything goes smoothly and he gets locked up for life.
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    14 or more....WTF?? the walls are caving in on him, I am guessing he won't be home for the weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    14 or more....WTF?? the walls are caving in on him, I am guessing he won't be home for the weekend...
    There will be plenty of them, that's for sure. No doubt some will be legit and some will be trying for 15 minutes of fame when it's
    something as serious as this. Then come the other accusations along with Epstein, like Bubba and Prince Andrew and many more.
    Again, some claims will be true and some lies. Just have to wait and see.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Why do so many of the left think that any of us conservatives defend Epstein?
    I'm just waiting for the trial to start. Don't have much to say on it all yet.
    Just hope everything goes smoothly and he gets locked up for life.
    Because they're so desperate to find ANYTHING on Trump, that they're willing to grasp at any old straw; FACT OR NOT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Because they're so desperate to find ANYTHING on Trump, that they're willing to grasp at any old straw; FACT OR NOT.

    They're just trying to use the former attorney Acosta as a distraction. But, as has already been shown, Trump has no part in any of this.
    Every uber wealthy person across the globe had some dealings with Epstein, but Trump banned him from Mar A Lago years ago when
    he caused a "little problem" there, so he got the heave-ho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    They're just trying to use the former attorney Acosta as a distraction. But, as has already been shown, Trump has no part in any of this.
    Every uber wealthy person across the globe had some dealings with Epstein, but Trump banned him from Mar A Lago years ago when
    he caused a "little problem" there, so he got the heave-ho.
    How dare you post FACTS, regarding the left's kangaroo court.
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    Just for fun and as a 'Brain Game', what if the Age of Consent was 14 in America? Would the Epstein Affair be the Talk of the Town?

    "The ages of consent vary by jurisdiction across Europe. The ages of consent are currently set between 14 and 18. The vast majority of countries set their ages in the range of 14 to 16; only four countries, Cyprus (17), Ireland (17), Turkey (18) and Vatican City (18), do not fit into this pattern.
    Ages of consent in Europe - Wikipedia"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Just for fun and as a 'Brain Game', what if the Age of Consent was 14 in America? Would the Epstein Affair be the Talk of the Town?

    "The ages of consent vary by jurisdiction across Europe. The ages of consent are currently set between 14 and 18. The vast majority of countries set their ages in the range of 14 to 16; only four countries, Cyprus (17), Ireland (17), Turkey (18) and Vatican City (18), do not fit into this pattern.
    Ages of consent in Europe - Wikipedia"
    It's 16 in the UK, the first girl I had sex with was nearly 16 and she wasn't a virgin!!
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    prosecutors in South Florida set aside a federal sex trafficking investigation a decade ago and allowed him to plead guilty to lesser state charges.
    why does he get tried again if he has already plead guilty to the crime?
    Screw that.

    I know SCOTUS just ruled getting tried by the state and the feds both for the same thing is NOT double jeopardy
    The reasoning was both the state and fed are sovereign,and both can try you.

    It's a bull crap ruling and clearly against the intent of the Constitution that "da government" can only have a go at you one time.
    Retrial is a form of unjust punishment. costing you money and time and your sanity (duress)
    So they can only do it once time if you plea out or are found not guilty

    The bad thing about this SCOTUS bunch - including lib jurists - is they do not care about civil liberties at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    It's 16 in the UK, the first girl I had sex with was nearly 16 and she wasn't a virgin!!
    I dated a 16 y.o. when I was 28 who dumped me for a married guy who left his wife and newborn for her!

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    The reasoning was both the state and fed are sovereign,and both can try you.
    and federalism means they are also co-sovereign. so being tried by one is co-sovereign to the other= 1 shot only

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