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    "Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticized the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examines the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language. The essay focuses on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it (source).

    Recently I was called a homophobe. I responded with this: "Apparently you are too stupid to know what a "phobia" is. A "phobia" is a fear, like fear of heights, fear of closed spaces, etc. I have no fear of homosexuals. I call them out for the sick perverts they are. It is cowards like YOU who have the fear, fear of the TRUTH. "

    A phobia is a mental condition. As I said, Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and of course the opposite too, to make the truth sound like a lie.

    In this case, the normal person, me has the mental problem - the "phobia" - and the person with the mental disorder, the homosexual, is the normal person. (NOTE: Do not derail this thread onto the topic of homosexuality. The topic is "The Politics of Liberal Perversion of Language.")

    Other examples of this perversion of language? Calling things racist that are not racist. Other sorts of phobias, like Islamophobia. Generally describing things in a manner that are absolutely false, such as the famous Democrat line, "Tax Cuts for the Rich", used to describe tax cuts for businesses as incentives for growth.
    Of course, there is this perversion, the phrase "Undocumented Immigrants", used to describe Illegal Aliens. "Alien" is a legal term to describe a non-citizen. But by calling Illegal Aliens "Immigrants", the Left lumps them in with legal immigrants for the purpose of saying the Republicans are anti-Immigrant. That, of course, is a lie. Remember: Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and make the truth sound like a lie. In this case, the lie is that Illegal Aliens are the same as Legal Immigrants, and the lie is also that Republicans are anti-Immigrant.

    FAKE NEWS: ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

    Trump, as usual, is totally correct. This sort of Orwellian perversion of language which Fake News outlets like CNN and MSNBC use on a daily basis really is the enemy of the people. It makes the people believe propaganda & lies, and then they vote based on those lies.

    I will always call out the liars in this forum who engage in this debasement of language, and I will start linking back to this OP as a reminder.

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    Orwell's Doublespeak: The Language of the Left
    https://canadafreepress.com/article/...ge-of-the-left

    George Orwell introduced the language of doublespeak in his dystopian novel “1984” published in 1949. Doublespeak is the language of opposites. Up is down and down is up.

    The word doublespeak derives from two Orwellian words “doublethink” and “newspeak.” Doublethink is when a person accepts two mutually contradictory thoughts as correct without being aware or troubled by the glaring contradiction between them. Doublethink statements like “war is peace” “freedom is slavery” “ignorance is strength” are made without discomfort. Newspeak is a method of controlling thought through language - it is the language of fake news. Doublespeak combines doublethink and newspeak in language that deliberately obscures, distorts, disguises, or reverses the meaning of words to manipulate public opinion in a mass social engineering effort.

    Orwellian doublespeak is the language of the hard Left leading a coup against Western democracies and their national sovereignty. Barack Obama spoke doublespeak when he promised hope and change. Obama deliberately obscured and disguised his hope for changing American democracy into socialism. Most Americans understood hope and change to mean a better life and the realization of the American dream - a hope to improve our democracy not to destroy it.

    The left-wing liberal agenda seeks to destroy the socio-political infrastructure of American democracy and transform it into a dependent socialist state with cradle to grave control by the government. Their strategy of destruction is to target the traditional American institutions of family, religion, and education that promote independence, adulthood, individualism, and ego strength - the qualities that made America great and support American democracy and sovereignty.

    The 21st century Leftist progressives speak doublespeak - their “progressive” narrative is entirely regressive.

    The regressive infantile impulses and temper tantrums exhibited by left-wing liberals today cannot seriously be called “progressive” except by double-speaking Leftists who believe that going backwards is going forward. REGRESSIVE is the accurate word for the infantile behavior and impulses that inform the “progressive” Left. Safe spaces, Play-Doh and counseling for disappointment, segregated black-only lounges are all regressive demands of an increasingly regressed population.

    To understand why the progressives speak doublespeak, their goals, who benefits, and the purpose of relabeling up as down and down as up it is necessary to translate doublespeak into colloquial English
    .........(SNIP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    "Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticized the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examines the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language. The essay focuses on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it (source).

    Recently I was called a homophobe. I responded with this: "Apparently you are too stupid to know what a "phobia" is. A "phobia" is a fear, like fear of heights, fear of closed spaces, etc. I have no fear of homosexuals. I call them out for the sick perverts they are. It is cowards like YOU who have the fear, fear of the TRUTH. "

    A phobia is a mental condition. As I said, Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and of course the opposite too, to make the truth sound like a lie.

    In this case, the normal person, me has the mental problem - the "phobia" - and the person with the mental disorder, the homosexual, is the normal person. (NOTE: Do not derail this thread onto the topic of homosexuality. The topic is "The Politics of Liberal Perversion of Language.")

    Other examples of this perversion of language? Calling things racist that are not racist. Other sorts of phobias, like Islamophobia. Generally describing things in a manner that are absolutely false, such as the famous Democrat line, "Tax Cuts for the Rich", used to describe tax cuts for businesses as incentives for growth.
    Of course, there is this perversion, the phrase "Undocumented Immigrants", used to describe Illegal Aliens. "Alien" is a legal term to describe a non-citizen. But by calling Illegal Aliens "Immigrants", the Left lumps them in with legal immigrants for the purpose of saying the Republicans are anti-Immigrant. That, of course, is a lie. Remember: Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and make the truth sound like a lie. In this case, the lie is that Illegal Aliens are the same as Legal Immigrants, and the lie is also that Republicans are anti-Immigrant.

    FAKE NEWS: ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

    Trump, as usual, is totally correct. This sort of Orwellian perversion of language which Fake News outlets like CNN and MSNBC use on a daily basis really is the enemy of the people. It makes the people believe propaganda & lies, and then they vote based on those lies.

    I will always call out the liars in this forum who engage in this debasement of language, and I will start linking back to this OP as a reminder.

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    Let's add another perverted term to the OP: White Nationalism, is another fake phony term.

    Nationalism is a GOOD thing, the opposite of globalism. I am a Nationalist, I put my nation first above others. Globalists create chaos like we see at the border - the no borders gang.

    White Supremacy is a thing, but there are o few of them that they are essentially 0% of the population, and the fake News' media obsession with them is nonsensical.There are not enough of them to fill up my bathroom.

    But White Nationalism? This is an Orwellian perversion of language. White Nationalism is the Left's attempt to make Nationalism a racial thing. It is not. By using this term, if you put America First like Trump does then you get branded a racist. Such is the evil of the Left.

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    You quote George Orwell. Are you aware that Orwell called himself a democratic socialist?. He advocated public ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange; free healthcare for all, paid for out of taxation - all the things that give people like you the screaming, unthinking phobias. Some of those things worked and were adopted universally throughout the developed world, except of course in God's Own Phobic America.

    FAKE NEWS, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE are prime examples of doublespeak. Anything Trump doesn't like, however well authenticated, is "fake news". Anyone who publicizes it is "an enemy of the people". And you know what? Any number of fools believe it because the liar-in-chief said so!

    Orwell detested unthinking bigotry, which is undoubtedly one of the main drivers of Trump's base. Whether he knew what he was doing or not, Trump legitimized it for the sake of power. By God, I wish there was an Orwell around now to get stuck into that bullying, lying freak of a POTUS. You wouldn't like it, missy. You wouldn't be quoting Orwell much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    You quote George Orwell. Are you aware that Orwell called himself a democratic socialist?.......
    Which just goes to prove that words have no meaning when they are applies to whatever you want to apply them to.

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    Let us add yet another perversion of a word: Choice.

    The words Choice and Healthcare and Rights have been used to describe what is actually the murder of an innocent human being. Abortion is the fundamental denial of rights to the human being that is being killed, namely his or her Right to Life.

    And healthcare? Healthcare is meant to save life not take it. Calling Abortion "Healthcare"is the ultimate language perversion.

    Let us remember this from the OP:

    "Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticized the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examines the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language. The essay focuses on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it (source).

    Oh, yes indeed. The Left wants to hide what is actually a holocaust beyond the wildest dreams of Hitler or Stalin. They weep for a few kids in detention, and celebrate the slaughter of millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    Let us add yet another perversion of a word: Choice.

    The words Choice and Healthcare and Rights have been used to describe what is actually the murder of an innocent human being. Abortion is the fundamental denial of rights to the human being that is being killed, namely his or her Right to Life.

    And healthcare? Healthcare is meant to save life not take it. Calling Abortion "Healthcare"is the ultimate language perversion.

    Let us remember this from the OP:

    "Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticized the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examines the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language. The essay focuses on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it (source).

    Oh, yes indeed. The Left wants to hide what is actually a holocaust beyond the wildest dreams of Hitler or Stalin. They weep for a few kids in detention, and celebrate the slaughter of millions.
    When the Left speaks of rights, what they're saying is those that think have too much money should be forced to fund things for those they think have too little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    When the Left speaks of rights, what they're saying is those that think have too much money should be forced to fund things for those they think have too little.
    You notice how none of them, are in this thread? This is too far above their intelligence level.

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    Washington Post Hails Professor Who Wants to Expunge 'Hello Ladies and Gentlemen'

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...llo-ladies-and

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    You notice how none of them, are in this thread? This is too far above their intelligence level.
    They'd have to try and defend the indefensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    Recently I was called a homophobe. I responded with this: "Apparently you are too stupid to know what a "phobia" is. A "phobia" is a fear, like fear of heights, fear of closed spaces, etc. I have no fear of homosexuals. I call them out for the sick perverts they are. It is cowards like YOU who have the fear, fear of the TRUTH. "
    Hatred of homosexuals usually comes from a fear that you might be gay yourself. Not saying you are, but that you likely have that fear. That's where the term comes from.

    As for the rest of the rant, words have always changed over time, and Conservatives and Liberals both politicize language. How often is the word "Nazi" stupidly thrown around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post

    Washington Post Hails Professor Who Wants to Expunge 'Hello Ladies and Gentlemen'

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...llo-ladies-and
    What's wrong with this?

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    One has to give American right wing conservatives (arwc) credit, they have managed to turn American values into negatives. The land of immigrants? No longer. The land of personal freedom? Not if you are a woman or a working class person. The land of excellent public education? No longer. Freedom now means freedom to discriminate because you are gay or brown. Lots more examples but why go there, ARWC are tools of dark money and right wing media. Some excellent examples on language below. ARWC you guys go on being fooled, the monied upper classes appreciate your support.

    Stanley Fish is an excellent read. 'How the Right Hijacked the Magic Words.'
    http://www.drugsense.org/tfy/hijacked.htm


    Geoffrey Nunberg covers the arwc use of language and the spell it casts on the easily led. Great book.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/....Talking_Right


    Conservatism's goals:
    http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html


    Conservatism's real face.
    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...-queen-england


    Dark Money for the reader who wants to dive deep.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money


    "Republicans, of course, cloak themselves in the rhetoric of freedom and necessity and express concern about future generations. That the beast they would slay ultimately translates to the lives of American citizens, including some of the most vulnerable who depend on government social programs to which they enjoy legal, political, and moral entitlement, is irrelevant. Hatred of government is a disease with them. They loathe common purpose and project, especially when channeled through the state. Their hatred of government, it seems to me, is tantamount to hatred of country." Steven Johnston http://contemporarycondition.blogspo...e-america.html


    "The trick never ages; the illusion never wears off. Vote to stop abortion; receive a rollback in capital gains taxes. Vote to make our country strong again; receive deindustrialization. Vote to screw those politically correct college professors; receive electricity deregulation. Vote to get government off our backs; receive conglomeration and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. Vote to stand tall against terrorists; receive Social Security privatization. Vote to strike a blow against elitism; receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our lifetimes, in which workers have been stripped of power and CEOs are rewarded in a manner beyond imagining." Thomas Frank, What's the Matter With Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America'
    Wanna make America great, buy American owned, made in the USA, we do. AF Veteran, INFJ-A, I am not PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    "Politics and the English Language" (1946) is an essay by George Orwell that criticized the "ugly and inaccurate" written English of his time and examines the connection between political orthodoxies and the debasement of language. The essay focuses on political language, which, according to Orwell, "is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind". Orwell believed that the language used was necessarily vague or meaningless because it was intended to hide the truth rather than express it (source).

    Recently I was called a homophobe. I responded with this: "Apparently you are too stupid to know what a "phobia" is. A "phobia" is a fear, like fear of heights, fear of closed spaces, etc. I have no fear of homosexuals. I call them out for the sick perverts they are. It is cowards like YOU who have the fear, fear of the TRUTH. "

    A phobia is a mental condition. As I said, Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and of course the opposite too, to make the truth sound like a lie.

    In this case, the normal person, me has the mental problem - the "phobia" - and the person with the mental disorder, the homosexual, is the normal person. (NOTE: Do not derail this thread onto the topic of homosexuality. The topic is "The Politics of Liberal Perversion of Language.")

    Other examples of this perversion of language? Calling things racist that are not racist. Other sorts of phobias, like Islamophobia. Generally describing things in a manner that are absolutely false, such as the famous Democrat line, "Tax Cuts for the Rich", used to describe tax cuts for businesses as incentives for growth.
    Of course, there is this perversion, the phrase "Undocumented Immigrants", used to describe Illegal Aliens. "Alien" is a legal term to describe a non-citizen. But by calling Illegal Aliens "Immigrants", the Left lumps them in with legal immigrants for the purpose of saying the Republicans are anti-Immigrant. That, of course, is a lie. Remember: Orwell's essay focuses on political language which is "designed to make lies sound truthful", and make the truth sound like a lie. In this case, the lie is that Illegal Aliens are the same as Legal Immigrants, and the lie is also that Republicans are anti-Immigrant.

    FAKE NEWS: ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

    Trump, as usual, is totally correct. This sort of Orwellian perversion of language which Fake News outlets like CNN and MSNBC use on a daily basis really is the enemy of the people. It makes the people believe propaganda & lies, and then they vote based on those lies.

    I will always call out the liars in this forum who engage in this debasement of language, and I will start linking back to this OP as a reminder.

    Author: Me
    Both sides have "language labs" that use focus groups to determine which words are the most effective. On the right "global warming" got changed to "climate change." Notice how all the conservative refer to the "Democrat" Party rather than Democratic. Being "anti" anything is bad so we have pro-choice and pro-life.

    Democrats use the terms like "estate tax" because estate sounds wealthy and Republicans use "death tax." Democrats use "fair share" of taxes rather than naming an actual percentage. Democrats like the term "Main Street, not Wall Street" and "income inequality" and not "income redistribution."

    In marketing they use "pre-owned" rather than "used" car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    .......In marketing they use "pre-owned" rather than "used" car.
    But there is nothing evil in that.

    But when you start using fluffy flowery language to describe murdering babies, thats when the evil comes in.

    And the is what the LEFT does, not the "right."

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