Court rejects death penalty for raping children

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080625/...tus_child_rape

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Wednesday outlawed executions of people convicted of raping a child.

In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented.

There has not been an execution in the United States for a crime that did not also involve the death of the victim in 44 years.

Patrick Kennedy, 43, was sentenced to death for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter in Louisiana. He is one of two people in the United States, both in Louisiana, who have been condemned to death for a rape that was not also accompanied by a killing.

The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman.

Forty-five states ban the death penalty for any kind of rape, and the other five states allow it for child rapists. Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas allow executions in such cases if the defendant had previously been convicted of raping a child.

The court struggled over how to apply standards laid out in decisions barring executions for the mentally retarded and people younger than 18 when they committed murder. In those cases, the court cited trends in the states away from capital punishment.

In this case, proponents of the Louisiana law said the trend was toward the death penalty, a point mentioned by Justice Samuel Alito in his dissent.

"The harm that is caused to the victims and to society at large by the worst child rapists is grave," Alito wrote. "It is the judgment of the Louisiana lawmakers and those in an increasing number of other states that these harms justify the death penalty."

But Kennedy said the absence of any executions for rape and the small number of states that allow it demonstrate "there is a national consensus against capital punishment for the crime of child rape."

Kennedy also acknowledged that the decision had to come to terms with "the years of long anguish that must be endured by the victim of child rape."

Still, Kennedy concluded that in cases of crimes against individuals — as opposed to treason, for example — "the death penalty should not be expanded to instances where the victim's life was not taken."

The decision does not affect the imposition of the death penalty for other crimes that do not involve murder, including treason and espionage, he said.

"It looks like a smashing victory on all fronts for us," said Denise LeBoeuf, a longtime capital defense attorney from New Orleans.

The girl's mother said, "We don't talk about that" and hung up.

The author of the Louisiana law, former Republican state Rep. Pete Schneider, said even opponents of the death penalty told him they would kill anyone who raped their children. "When are you going to have the courage to stand up for what's right for all of the people — but especially the children under 12 that have been brutally raped by monsters?" Schneider said, directing his comments to the justices in Wednesday's majority.

The last executions for crimes other than murder took place in 1964, according to a database maintained by the Death Penalty Information Center.

Ronald Wolfe, 34, died in Missouri's gas chamber on May 8, 1964 for rape. James Coburn was electrocuted in Alabama on Sept. 4 of that year for robbery.

Patrick Kennedy was convicted in 2003 of raping his stepdaughter at their home in Harvey, La., outside New Orleans. The girl initially told police she was sorting Girl Scout cookies in the garage when two boys assaulted her.

Police arrested Kennedy a couple of weeks after the March 1998 rape, but more than 20 months passed before the girl identified him as her attacker.

His defense attorney at the time argued that blood testing was inconclusive and that the victim was pressured to change her story.

The Louisiana Supreme Court upheld the sentence, saying that "short of first-degree murder, we can think of no other non-homicide crime more deserving" of the death penalty. State Chief Justice Pascal Calogero noted in dissent that the U.S. high court already had made clear that capital punishment could not be imposed without the death of the victim, except possibly for espionage or treason.

A second Louisiana man, Richard Davis was sentenced to death in December for repeatedly raping a 5-year-old girl in Caddo Parish, which includes Shreveport. Local prosecutor Lea Hall told jurors: "Execute this man. Justice has a sword and this sword needs to swing today."

The high court's decision leaves intact Kennedy's conviction, but will lead to a new sentence.

The case is Kennedy v. Louisiana, 07-343.

[LadyT]

"In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented."

Sounds like negotiating room. How about state sponsored a$$ ra9ings?

[Damocles]

"In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented."

Sounds like negotiating room. How about state sponsored a$$ ra9ings?

They have that, it is called "prison".

[Cancel3]

"In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented."

Sounds like negotiating room. How about state sponsored a$$ ra9ings?

A child molester going into the state pneitentiary is pretty much assured of plenty of ass rapings. Even murderers, armed robbers, burglars and drug dealers hate a child molester.

Actually, life in prison is probably worse than the death penalty.

[LadyT]

that being said, I don't support the death penalty so I'm happy with the verdict.

[Minister of Truth]

I could never understand the 1977 ruling, myself. If we are going to have a death penalty, then rape should be included in it. Otherwise its a joke, and we should just go ahead and abolish it altogether...

[Cancel3]

I could never understand the 1977 ruling, myself. If we are going to have a death penalty, then rape should be included in it. Otherwise its a joke, and we should just go ahead and abolish it altogether...

What I have never understood is that the same people who say it is bad to kill people are the ones who reserve the right to kill people for killing people.


If it is morally wrong to kill someone, then it is morally wrong to kill someone.

[evince]

It would give the criminal more reasons to kill the victim.

Its a good decision.

[LadyT]

What I have never understood is that the same people who say it is bad to kill people are the ones who reserve the right to kill people for killing people.


If it is morally wrong to kill someone, then it is morally wrong to kill someone.

I don't know about other people, but for me, the opposition to capital punishment doesn't necessarily lie in the moral standard that its bad to kill a person, I have huge problem with a system that is inherently racist and kills innocent people. There's no doubt that our judicial system is flawed, we know for a fact that innocent people can and do get convicted. Allowing a flawed system to excute a person is effectively allowing the murder of an innocent person.

[cawacko]

It would give the criminal more reasons to kill the victim.

Its a good decision.

The death penalty would give criminals more reason to kill?

[evince]

The death penalty would give criminals more reason to kill?

When someone rapes anyone if they know the victim can kill them by telling ,then they would be much more likely to kill the victim.

[Damocles]

The death penalty would give criminals more reason to kill?

No witness.

[cawacko]

When someone rapes anyone if they know the victim can kill them by telling ,then they would be much more likely to kill the victim.

What if the person didn't rape a person because they knew they could be killed if they got caught?

[Cancel3]

What if the person didn't rape a person because they knew they could be killed if they got caught?

There has never been a reliable study that showed capital punishment was a deterrent to crime.

When capital punishment was reinstated, the states that allowed it did not see a drop in violent crimes or murders.

And it doesn't save money, because a capital crime investigation & trial usually costs 10 times more than a non-capital crime investigation & trial.

[evince]

What if the person didn't rape a person because they knew they could be killed if they got caught?

Why should they worry about that? They could just be sure to kill the victim and not have to worry about it huh?