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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Trump created that mess by unilaterally withdrawing from the Iran nuclear pact. I guess because Obama's people did it, he had to end it. He is a petty shit,so jealous of Obama. Why should Iran not go back to making nukes, since that was what the treaty was about? Why should they simply accept Trump starving their people and their economy? Trump did it all to see if he could get a reaction that he could pretend justifies a war. Just keep torturing Iran until it acts, then blame them.
    Iran is 4 times the size of Iraq, has triple the population and is very mountainous. Trump will start another endless war killing thousands and costing trillions. Why anyone wants another war is a mystery to those who can think.
    talking out of your ass -pure delusions without foundation.

    The Iran deal wasn't worth anything -just delayed "breakout"; and funded Iranian expeditionary forces

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    What a retard.
    Your graph proves it is an extension of Obama's recovery.
    & given the trajectory it would appear the "trump economy" has not kept pace w/ the last few years of the "Obama economy"..

    sadly trump will take cred for anything, regardless of what, if anything, he had to do w/ it, & will just as quickly blame anyone/everyone when it goes south..

    One can wonder what the trump would have accomplished thus far had he had a great recession to deal w/ rather than a robust economy & market.......??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    & given the trajectory it would appear the "trump economy" has not kept pace w/ the last few years of the "Obama economy"..

    sadly trump will take cred for anything, regardless of what, if anything, he had to do w/ it, & will just as quickly blame anyone/everyone when it goes south..

    One can wonder what the trump would have accomplished thus far had he had a great recession to deal w/ rather than a robust economy & market.......??
    So far he has barely managed to keep himself from wrecking Obama's economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    yet Russia is sanctioned, China is forced into trade talks it doesn't want,the border is a mess -but only Trump has gotten anything done with REMAIN, and Mexican cooperation by tariff threats.

    And I haven't seen any regime changes like Libya/Iraq that led to failed terrorists states
    Iran?? Yemen?? I think one could argue Syria~until the Russians put a stop to that.

    Afghani-NAM??? Perhaps, now that the current regime is whole-heartedly negotiating w/ the terrorist, murderers, women hating blood thirsty binladen lovers etc etc etc........ The Afghani gubment isn't even @ the table............ Sooner or later the butchers will be back in charge & the members of that gubment will be slaughtered along w/ many, many others............. My 2cents for the day.
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    talking out of your ass -pure delusions without foundation.

    The Iran deal wasn't worth anything -just delayed "breakout"; and funded Iranian expeditionary forces
    The rest of the world liked it...what makes you think you know better than everyone else?

    I will tell you why, because you are arrogant prick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    & given the trajectory it would appear the "trump economy" has not kept pace w/ the last few years of the "Obama economy"..

    sadly trump will take cred for anything, regardless of what, if anything, he had to do w/ it, & will just as quickly blame anyone/everyone when it goes south..

    One can wonder what the trump would have accomplished thus far had he had a great recession to deal w/ rather than a robust economy & market.......??
    WHAT are you talking about?? where do you see wages gains of 3%+ under Obama?
    and how abut the jobs - Obama brought back jobs, but they were low paying.

    do you recall his statement about needing a magic wand to bring back manufacturing jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    The rest of the world liked it...what makes you think you know better than everyone else?

    I will tell you why, because you are arrogant prick.
    moron. it couldn't even pass the Senate as a treaty, so Obama had to use an executive agreement, which is why it's easily overturned, unlike a treaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    whem talking about neocons; Libya is a prime example of regime change gone bad.

    Libya is to Africa ( and not just the Maghreb, but the Sahel as well) what Iraq is to the middle east.

    Hillary still thinks she did good -prime delusionary thought added to her TDS -much like the crowd here.

    Obama at least had the honesty to call it his worse policy failure
    ?? you blaming hillary for the bush invasions in Afghani-NAM & Iraq based on a lie??

    IT was the dick n bush show-torturing ppl, shame brought on the USA like never before. & all you can mention is hillary.......???
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Iran?? Yemen?? I think one could argue Syria~until the Russians put a stop to that.
    Syria? are you NUTS?? Trump wants us OUT of Syria -the neocons want us in.
    Iranian sanctions are not about regime change - and regime change as defined by neocons is "at the barrel of a gun"

    Afghani-NAM??? Perhaps, now that the current regime is whole-heartedly negotiating w/ the terrorist, murderers, women hating blood thirsty binladen lovers etc etc etc........ The Afghani gubment isn't even @ the table............ Sooner or later the butchers will be back in charge & the members of that gubment will be slaughtered along w/ many, many others............. My 2cents for the day.
    no disagreement on Afgh. get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    ?? you blaming hillary for the bush invasions in Afghani-NAM & Iraq based on a lie??

    IT was the dick n bush show-torturing ppl, shame brought on the USA like never before. & all you can mention is hillary.......???
    get some coffee. wake up. my post was about Libya -read it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    moron. it couldn't even pass the Senate as a treaty, so Obama had to use an executive agreement, which is why it's easily overturned, unlike a treaty.
    That just proves the Senate is useless, which is a guven, you idiot.
    Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    That just proves the Senate is useless, which is a guven, you idiot.
    Try again.
    ROFL.. it proves the deal was unpopular, unlike your previous claim.
    It also shows Obama deliberately dodged the ratification process

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    Our little trolls anatta, terri, etc., will continually suffer emotionally if they get ill reacting to every rebuttal of their nonsense.

    They are unable to constrain themselves, thus they cede power and control to their opponents.

    They are like the 12 year old girl, discovering her parents' inadequacies, who responds to everything with "Really, Mother?"

    Whereas most 12 year olds outgrow their emotional immaturity, the Trumpers and rw extremists still respond, "Really, Mother? Really?"

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    Hey, anatta, behind you! libya, liby, libya

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    WHAT are you talking about?? where do you see wages gains of 3%+ under Obama?
    and how abut the jobs - Obama brought back jobs, but they were low paying.

    do you recall his statement about needing a magic wand to bring back manufacturing jobs?
    Did you look @ the chart??

    The trump jobs are low paying as well, the average worker is way way behind in actual dollars, & you know that..

    No, I don't recall that statement, & thus far, other than promises trump hasn't brought back all those steal jobs, how are the coal miners doing??

    IMHO it isn't an argument even worth having-we have lost so many millions & millions of jobs to china that are never coming back-ever, certainly not in the life time of children/grand children so why pretend..

    Someone mentioned buying furniture made in NC...... There was once bustling manufacturing there, furniture, textiles etc... It was all gone in an instant-not by accident, but by design.........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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