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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Heh. Florida used to be entirely underwater. Now it's underwater only part of the time! -Dave Barry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Please don't explain to a Miamian how Miami weather and Florida's limestone base works again since I've seen water in the
    streets there for 60 years on many occasions.
    Ha! He did that to you too.
    He tried to tell me how great the Alaska PFD has been. I doubt he ever set foot in AK yet implied he was from here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Ha! He did that to you too.
    He tried to tell me how great the Alaska PFD has been. I doubt he ever set foot in AK yet implied he was from here.
    He reminds me of that old saying. Jack of all trades...master of none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Ha! He did that to you too.
    He tried to tell me how great the Alaska PFD has been. I doubt he ever set foot in AK yet implied he was from here.
    Well, he IS a Marxist. He believes government is infallible, that mosquitoes don't roam the Alaskan countryside in summer, that unicorns exist, that the promised Utopia is possible, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    He reminds me of that old saying. Jack of all trades...master of none.
    And covers all ground. Miami to Anchorage.

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    Hello anonymoose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Ha! He did that to you too.
    He tried to tell me how great the Alaska PFD has been. I doubt he ever set foot in AK yet implied he was from here.
    I implied no such thing. You have no quote to that effect. Only hearsay.
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    Hello Stretch,

    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    He reminds me of that old saying. Jack of all trades...master of none.
    Not a bad thing to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anonymoose,



    I implied no such thing. You have no quote to that effect. Only hearsay.
    From Alaska's Universal Basic Income, Supported By Liberals and Conservatives Under Attack
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    We don't have enough super-wealthy to pay a dividend.
    Here's a link to the list of massive cuts that had to be made to preserve the PFD. Think it's worth it?
    https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/06...e-item-vetoes/

    And these cuts only make a dent in the budget shortfall.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    We most certainly do.
    There you have it.

    No, Alaska does not have enough super-wealthy to pay a dividend.
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    The Human Cost of Alaska’s Budget Cuts: Stories from the Front Lines
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    ^All to preserve our sacred PFD.
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    Hello anonymoose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I doubt he ever set foot in AK yet implied he was from here.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anonymoose, I implied no such thing. You have no quote to that effect. Only hearsay.
    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    From [PoliTalker thread] Alaska's Universal Basic Income, Supported By Liberals and Conservatives Under Attack

    [PoliTalker:] There you have it.

    No, Alaska does not have enough super-wealthy to pay a dividend.

    ^All to preserve our sacred PFD.
    Your quote does not support your false claim about me. And why in the world are you even talking about me anyway? How did I get to be the subject?

    You are talking about me because you have no good argument for your own points, so you have instead tried to make the discussion fallaciously about me. It's called an ad hominem attack. It also happens to be right out of President Trump's playbook. Hint: That doesn't make it OK.

    "Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2] " wiki

    Anyone looking at the title of this thread can read plainly. It's not about me at all. In any way shape or form. YOU! You are the reason for the talk about me. You jumped in here and completely bypassed the subject at hand and immediately began this personal attack on me, in the third person no less. How disrespectful.

    Now I have to ask myself why I should sit here and put up with this?

    Are you in here to discuss whether or not climate change has been a factor in migration from Central America to the USA; or are you forfeiting that conjecture and instead diverting the discussion away from the subject and towards the author...

    Seems to me if you had a good reason to claim there is no climate change factor in driving northerly migration away from the equatorial zone that you would totally be all about that.

    If you had a good argument you would be using it.

    But you don't.

    So you're going with the cheap shots.

    That's disrespectful to me.

    Do you care so little about me that you'll gladly throw me under the bus if you think it will help your losing argument?

    Just who are you really trying to convince?

    You're not getting any mileage with me.

    Maybe you're really just trying to convince yourself.

    Ever thought about that?

    I thought you said I was one of the most reasonable/honest liberals you ever talked to.

    Do you think that what you have done here is reasonable and honest? Do you think I deserve to be lied about with false claims mocking my values? How is that OK?
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