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    Climate change belief is not a church, That is a belief that requires activation without science and data. The science data is clear and inarguable by honest people. 97 percent of Climate scientists accept it as true. The evidence is overwhelming. To reject it requires refusing to believe in something regardless of the fact the data proves it. All those scientists are not being suckered. They actually are capable of understanding the data. The sliver of ambulance chasers and crazies that reject it should be treated with a lack of respect. They are the antithesis of scientists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Why do perfectly intelligent people believe in the Church of Gravity?
    There is no Church of Gravity. Gravity is not a circular argument. It is simply an observed force of nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I discovered the Earth was flat before it was cool.
    Not science. Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Those who deny that serious climate change that threatens modern civilization are fools.
    Define 'climate change'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    The 'clever' fools are those who deny just how serious climate change is.
    Define 'climate change'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Sure look like morons to me. There are fools posting here who even deny the existence of global weather stations, not to mention the climate science itself.
    They're not all the minions of industrialists looking to forestall their inevitable accountability. Some of them are just plain common-or-garden morons.
    There is no global weather station. There is no science to climate. Climate is unquantifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Looks like jimmy thinks for himself, maggot. You're just a cut-and-paste poseur.
    Nah. He's just chanting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Those that believe the hoax are idiots.
    If you define 'idiot' as a fundamentalist believer in the Church of Global Warming, true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    They aren't concerned with "climate change". Many who claim they are still do things they say are causing it. Their push is about redistribution of wealth and global socialism.
    Very good! You quite correctly see the linkage between the Church of Global Warming and the Church of Karl Marx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    If jimmy believes in the climate change hoax, it shows he isn't thinking.
    So far I've only seen him chant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It's a fact, demonstrated by this forum, that Republicans gravitate towards the beliefs of the moronic and the dumbassed.
    Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that denies science, specifically the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. It is YOU that denies statistical mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Intelligent People believe in Climate Change because they're Intelligent People.
    Circular argument fallacy. Define 'climate change'.
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    Same reason Intelligent People believe the Earth is round,
    It isn't. It's spheroid. Not a belief. Not science. Not a religion. An observation.
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    the Moon isn't made of cheese,
    Not a belief. Not a religion. Not science. An observation.
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    AirPorts didn't exist in the 1700s
    Who said they did??
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    and wind turbines don't cause cancer.
    Who said they did??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Define 'climate change'.
    Or "climate scientist".
    There are oceanographers, meteorologists, physical chemists, mathematicians, geologists, biologists, chemists, physicists, and other various disciplines that fall under the umbrella of 'climate scientist'.
    I guess you could say that actors and politicians fall into that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Climate change belief is not a church,
    All religions are based on some initial circular argument. The Church of Global Warming is based on the circular argument that the Earth is warming over some unspecified period. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't have enough thermometers. All religions also extend that initial circular argument by use of other arguments. It is a religion. Since it is trying to use it's own circular argument as a proof, it is a fundamentalist religion. The other word for the circular argument is 'faith'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    That is a belief that requires activation without science and data.
    That's right. The Church of Global Warming does not use either science nor data.
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    The science data
    There is no such thing as 'scientific' data. There is only data, or there is not. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    is clear and inarguable by honest people.
    There is no data. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't have enough thermometers.
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    97 percent of Climate scientists accept it as true.
    Math error. Failure to select by randN. Failure to normalize by paired randR. Failure to calculate margin of error. Failure to disclose raw data. Failure to remove bias from data.

    Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The evidence is overwhelming.
    What evidence? Did you know that science does not use supporting evidence? Only religions do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    To reject it requires refusing to believe in something regardless of the fact the data proves it.
    A belief is not a proof. Data is not a proof. You have no data anyway. There are no proofs in science. Science is an open functional system. Proofs only exist in closed functional systems, such as mathematics or logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    All those scientists are not being suckered.
    Consensus is not used in science. Science is not any society, government agency, university, academy, group of scientists or even a single scientist. It is not people at all.

    Science is a set of falsifiable theories. The theories you are denying by your belief include the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    They actually are capable of understanding the data.
    There is no data.
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    The sliver of ambulance chasers and crazies that reject it should be treated with a lack of respect.
    Reject what? There is no data. The burden of proof is on YOU.
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    They are the antithesis of scientists.
    Science isn't scientists. It is a set of falsifiable theories. Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Or "climate scientist".
    There are oceanographers, meteorologists, physical chemists, mathematicians, geologists, biologists, chemists, physicists, and other various disciplines that fall under the umbrella of 'climate scientist'.
    I guess you could say that actors and politicians fall into that as well.
    No, they do not fall under that umbrella. They would be insulted for anyone to suggest such a thing. Climate 'scientists' deny science and mathematics.

    Perhaps a better view of these disciplines are explained here.

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