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it's almost like democrats don't understand economics.................but I repeat myself
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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I don't think raising it as an issue is "forcing" it national, living on peanuts ain't easy being it NY or Kansas, so it is a concern all over the countryOriginally Posted by cawacko
One of the arguements against it are the fears of cost push inflation, but there is no proof of that other than rhetoric, if the "invisible hand" does exist, it will balance out
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You promised at least 3% growth if your stupid tax cut was passed.
Actual growth? 2.85%, below Obama's 2015 GDP of 2.88%.
Also, every single recession from the last 40 years began with a Conservative in the White House.
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Bernie and others are/have been running on a $15/hr national minimum wage. It’s been out there for a while as an issue.
I don’t believe the federal minimum wage should be changed. If cities or states want to change theirs they can do so.
There has been lots of research done on Seattle’s minimum wage increase and the results have been a mixed bag. Helps some hurts others.
But Manhattan, NY and Manhattan, KS are two very different places when it comes to cost of living and to say one size should fit all for both locations overlooks a lot of economic reality
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In other words, you are back to the arguement we see a lot from conservatives on an array of issues, let the States decide on their own.
With some issues I'll admit it is appropriate, but let's say when a Walmart in Kansas is paying their employees next to nothing while we nationwide war funding the safety net programs as Medicare to keep these people above poverty it does become a national concern
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I wonder what they’ll say when they find out Denmark has no minimum wage. Will they still point to it as the paragon of “democratic socialism”?
The anti-Trumper's new mantra:
“B-b-but muh White supremacy”
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Yes I say states or cities should decide because it is appropriate. Big coastal cities are having issues with jobs and other consequences of raising their minimum wage. What do you think is going to happen in Manhattan, KS then? You think putting more people and businesses out of work is going to be a benefit for them?
You can’t force a one size fits all on the country when it comes to this issue
rebel
I didn't promise a damn thing so try and do today without delusions
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Yet you can't address the OP
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Reality: The only thing awage mandated by BIG GOVERNMENT produces is INFLATION. The min. wage demanded by government will always be an entry level wage regardless of how many time the government sticks it nose up the ass of private business. Why? Just who do you think is going to offset the mandated wage hikes.....the consumer or the retailer who must make a profit to provide the jobs?
Reality: Every time a wage increase is mandated....the business, either service or production will simply raise the price of the product or service provided. Example: In 1963 when the mandated min. wage was around 1 dollar per hour....the cost of a Micky D's big mack was .49 cents.....today after inflation adjustment that same burger cost 4 bucks with the wages coming in around 10.50 an hour....do the math....wages will never overtake the government nose up your ass min. wage inflation index. Its a simple matter of math and logic.
Liberals are always chasing their own asses around a maypole......min. wage will never be a living wage for a family. The very topic is a liberal buzz word.....in the hope that their voters will always be stupid enough to take their propaganda as gospel. Its simply a liberal dance to mark time presenting the illusion that something of value is being delivered for the purchase of the STUPID VOTE.
If this reality is not truthful and logical.....any liberal, answer this question. Why do families with an average annual wage of around 40k STILL QUALITY for welfare benefits?
I N F L A T I O N: Reality...…...to offset a mandated min. wage hike the business has but a few options. 1. Increase the cost of the product or service provided. 2. Reduce the number of employees. 3. Increase the number of items sold via technology. Under any circumstance it is the WORKER that actually pays the cost of Big Government interference...not the employer.
C O N S U M E R: See....THE SHAFT.
Last edited by Ralph; 07-08-2019 at 10:56 AM.
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Right, now comes the part where you slowly back away from the policy you supported on principle because it didn't deliver on a single promise you thought it would.
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rebel
so you WILL do delusions today....................
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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I suppose that depends on where you live. here, Chick fil a starts at $16/hour.
I would like to see your data on the price increase since 1992 if you don't mind linking us up.
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What do you think about a city changing its minimum wage, and then having it overturned by the state where the city is? That happened to Kansas City and St. Louis. St. Louis voters approved an increase to $11/hour in 2015. Business lobbyists tied it up in courts for a while, then it went into effect. Then the all-(R) legislature passed a law banning local minimum wage changes, so now it is back to $7.85/hr.
"The city eventually won the legal fight, and for one summer in 2017 St. Louis’ minimum wage workers collected a bigger paycheck. But the victory was short-lived: In the final minutes of the legislative session that spring, the GOP-led Missouri Legislature passed a bill banning local minimum wages."
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...2df8706bf.html
So basically, the PEOPLE voted for it, but then were shot down by a handful of legislators. Thankfully, the forces of light overcame those of evil, and the state voters passed a proposition last year to raise the minimum wage state-wide. The new rate went into effect in January 2019. No doubt the legislators are working hard to figure out a way around it, but for now it stands.
https://www.govdocs.com/missouri-vot...wage-increase/
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It should be a local issue decided by the supply and demand of labor. I do think the more local the decision, the better as it should be based on cost of living as well.
You don't need as much in Buffalo as you do in NYC.
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