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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    They couldn't. He broke no law. He had a right to bear arms, same as anyone.
    One of the Members was a Gun Dealer. They sold guns at Gun Shows. If there was some problem, it could have easily been dealt with in a Courtroom.
    The first thing the 75 guys dressed in Battle Gear did was kill the dogs. Not really a good sign. Maybe the children would have been next, they make a lot of noise too.

    You know, it seems like Blue Team is all good with this. I wonder how they would feel if the religious group was 'black'?
    A bunch of black families being attacked by the nice white people from the Government. Yeah, I'm thinking it would be ALL DIFFERENT then.

    It's a bit sad when both Red Team and Blue Team support 'Fascism', just depending on who the Targets are.

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    I have something for our Blue Team Fascists supporters.

    "The 1993 Waco siege is often categorized as one of the more violent, militaristic, domestic actions by U.S. law enforcement in recent memory. And it should be. At the Branch Davidian’s “compound” a fatal combination of government arrogance, fear, impatience, and aggression lead to 76 bodies, including 20 children."

    ^OK. That's the white people. ^

    Here's some black people --->"A less bloody confrontation took place in Philadelphia on May 13, 1985 — but the relatively low body count in the MOVE standoff (11 people, including 5 children) was no thanks to law enforcement. MOVE were a group of black activists who were anti-technology and government, pro-environmentalist, and who had a history of confrontations with law enforcement. Their neighbors had complained the group was loud and messy and aggressive. On May 13, attempts to evict MOVE and serve arrest warrants for four of the members led to an armed standoff. And when law enforcement grew too impatient to wait out the group, they simply dropped a C4/Tovex bomb on the house — ostensibly to dislodge a wooden structure on the roof — which turned into a fire that spread unchecked and took out 60-some homes, the entire block."
    "Like Waco, this standoff with so-called radicals involved disputed who-fired-first exchanges of gunfire; it also involved members being jailed, while government and law enforcement officials got — at best — a stern talking-to. By 1999, when law enforcement finally admitted they had used incendiary devices at Waco, many people felt that the standoff had been a disaster. But nobody in the ATF, FBI, or Department of Justice was ever charged. And nine surviving Branch Davidians went to jail, one for 15 years."

    "There are more parallels with Waco: accusations that the MOVE members set a fire themselves, counter-accusations that police held firefighters back (this was definitely true at Waco and MOVE both)."
    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2013/05...-a-city-block/

    OK. Any Blue Team Cheerleaders on this one?

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    I am a lefty and was repulsed by Waco. they could have waited them out. Lots of people died because the government and police did not want to look weak.
    My grandfather was at the Ludlow massacre. Violence is the American way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I am a lefty and was repulsed by Waco. they could have waited them out. Lots of people died because the government and police did not want to look weak.
    My grandfather was at the Ludlow massacre. Violence is the American way.
    You don't have to be 'Left' or 'Right' to see the injustice done here. Gross violation of Government Power directed at Citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    What the hell does that have to do with Trump wasting more tax dollars mimicking nationalist/militaristic parades a'la old Soviet Union or China or North Korea or any fascist dictatorship in the Middle East or South America?

    And as a side bar, please stop acting as if Koresh and flunkies had nothing to do with that disaster.
    Right wingers are absolutely terrible at analogies but that goes hand in hand with the poor logic and reasoning abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakedTaters View Post
    That act was Janet Reno's ticket to hell. That freak of nature "saved" the children by burning them alive.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ns-got-killed/




    What a DUMBASS DISGUSTING DESPICABLE POST!!!! WHAT LIBERALS allowed the arranged marriages or raping of children at the The Mall or some ranch in Texas or ID or Florida or any other GD place? We liberals dared to say it was wrong, we must do something! Did liberals fail to act when TX CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES wrote reports that that girls as young as 12 were being given to older men? No someone sent out CPS. Did we LIBERALS say they should be left ALONE, it was Koresh's business? Fuck no! It's everyones biz.

    A crazed sexual pervert, religious LEADER with DNA matches to at LEAST 12 children that HE LET BURN to death--after REPEATED opportunities to let the women and kids go!

    Do the math 76 Davidians died that day--1 in 6 were one of KORESH's children by numerous women and GIRLS. DAVID KORESH KILLED HIS KIDS!!

    You sick fucks!
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 07-06-2019 at 08:17 PM.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Right wingers are absolutely terrible at analogies but that goes hand in hand with the poor logic and reasoning abilities.
    Facts and DETAILS elude them. Don't get me started on 'nuance'....
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakedTaters View Post
    That act was Janet Reno's ticket to hell. That freak of nature "saved" the children by burning them alive.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ns-got-killed/




    PLS NOTE AN ALWAYS LEFT OUT FACT when wingshit touches this subject.

    Janet Reno was sworn in well into into the SIEGE. Since she was the first attorney general with a 'uterus', we can safely assume the LEFT OVER BUSH boys were the ones running the show, although I have to assume Clinton gave them permission to continue. I assume, I don't know that for a fact. Does everyone understand TIME?

    Jan 20th, 1993 Clinton is inaugurated.
    Feb 11th the siege at Waco begins. (I'll assume ATF had a plan before JAN 20th. Just a guess).
    Mar 11th the Senate approves RENO, she becomes AG on MON, March 14th.
    Apr 19th burns to the ground.

    But it's ALL Reno's fault!

    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    PLS NOTE AN ALWAYS LEFT OUT FACT when wingshit touches this subject.

    Janet Reno was sworn in well into into the SIEGE. Since she was the first attorney general with a 'uterus', we can safely assume the LEFT OVER BUSH boys were the ones running the show, although I have to assume Clinton gave them permission to continue. I assume, I don't know that for a fact. Does everyone understand TIME?

    Jan 20th, 1993 Clinton is inaugurated.
    Feb 11th the siege at Waco begins. (I'll assume ATF had a plan before JAN 20th. Just a guess).
    Mar 11th the Senate approves RENO, she becomes AG on MON, March 14th.
    Apr 19th burns to the ground.

    But it's ALL Reno's fault!

    Yes, the plan began in the Bush Administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Eisenhower: right after winning WWII, no surprise there.
    Kennedy: the Cold War, no surprise there.
    1939: Again, WWII, the beginning...no surprise there.

    Now to be fair, the 4th celebrations has always had a military tinge to them, but that was in the background since the end of the COLD WAR. What the Orange Oaf is doing is just exploiting that to back HIS "MAGA" BS....forget that FACT that since the end of the Cold War (and maybe even before), America does not pull the parades similar to the old Soviet Union or current China or North Korea.

    As the saying goes, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".
    What about the chronology of the posts?

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    well, this post certainly tells us that the younger generation will swallow anything the government tells them and that the government doesn't have to follow the law to get results. the ends justify the means
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    One of the Members was a Gun Dealer. They sold guns at Gun Shows. If there was some problem, it could have easily been dealt with in a Courtroom.
    The first thing the 75 guys dressed in Battle Gear did was kill the dogs. Not really a good sign. Maybe the children would have been next, they make a lot of noise too.

    You know, it seems like Blue Team is all good with this. I wonder how they would feel if the religious group was 'black'?
    A bunch of black families being attacked by the nice white people from the Government. Yeah, I'm thinking it would be ALL DIFFERENT then.

    It's a bit sad when both Red Team and Blue Team support 'Fascism', just depending on who the Targets are.
    Conservatives do not support fascism. Fascism is a form of socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I am a lefty and was repulsed by Waco. they could have waited them out. Lots of people died because the government and police did not want to look weak.
    My grandfather was at the Ludlow massacre. Violence is the American way.
    No, it isn't. Violence is the liberal's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Right wingers are absolutely terrible at analogies but that goes hand in hand with the poor logic and reasoning abilities.
    YALIF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    What a DUMBASS DISGUSTING DESPICABLE POST!!!! WHAT LIBERALS allowed the arranged marriages or raping of children at the The Mall or some ranch in Texas or ID or Florida or any other GD place? We liberals dared to say it was wrong, we must do something! Did liberals fail to act when TX CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES wrote reports that that girls as young as 12 were being given to older men? No someone sent out CPS. Did we LIBERALS say they should be left ALONE, it was Koresh's business? Fuck no! It's everyones biz.

    A crazed sexual pervert, religious LEADER with DNA matches to at LEAST 12 children that HE LET BURN to death--after REPEATED opportunities to let the women and kids go!

    Do the math 76 Davidians died that day--1 in 6 were one of KORESH's children by numerous women and GIRLS. DAVID KORESH KILLED HIS KIDS!!

    You sick fucks!
    No, the government killed his kids. Stop shouting.
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