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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You are the guy who would have been making excuses for Hitler.
    So you are saying I am a democrat, those are fighting words. Dems allowed this by shouting from the roof tops for a year that there was no crisis! So shove it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I’m on vacation, but still here!
    Still can't answer the question Garud?

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    Democrats couldn't care less about those children at the border.

    has nothing to do with compassion with the nutters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Is it okay to treat them badly?
    are they being waterboarded? are they being flown to gitmo? are they being denied food? (since CFM seems to think there's no right to eat)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    are they being waterboarded? are they being flown to gitmo? are they being denied food? (since CFM seems to think there's no right to eat)
    No to all of those questions... Are they being denied toothbrushes, a place to sleep, a shower? Are young children being separated from their parents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Still can't answer the question Garud?
    I think I answered all questions... did I miss one of your attempts at Gotcha?

    Sorry I am no vacation and not here as much as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No to all of those questions... Are they being denied toothbrushes, a place to sleep, a shower? Are young children being separated from their parents?
    sounds like marine corps boot camp.......................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    So you are saying I am a democrat, those are fighting words. Dems allowed this by shouting from the roof tops for a year that there was no crisis! So shove it!
    No dickweed, I am calling you a Nazi Sympathizer. Come fight me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No dickweed, I am calling you a Nazi Sympathizer. Come fight me.
    of course you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No to all of those questions... Are they being denied toothbrushes, a place to sleep, a shower? Are young children being separated from their parents?
    Proof besides some liberal whining!!

    I'll wait.

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    With the right wing politically motivated mcmorons in the tank for Trump, all Biden has to do is stay the course.
    All those new voters coming across the borer and heading for FL, WI, MI, and PA will make the GOP effort worthless.
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    The twenty thousand illegals deported this year on the ICE raids will be about 2% of all them here now and not counting those coming across the border, and heading for FL, WI, MI, and PA. Trump does not stand a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You are pitiful. It is wrong period. It is more egregious the more it is done.
    Then why do you not demand that your congressional leadership give them the funding necessary for this crisis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    SO, its the kids fault? We should take it out on the kids, if they had bad parents?
    No. What we should do is fully fund and prepare for the crisis that is building on the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Walls in some areas, like we already have, will help, but we already have walls, or they are already funded and in the process of being built in those areas.

    A "30 foot wall, from sea to shining sea." is silly and will not prevent anything. Our laws need changing as they relate to immigration, and doing that would help the problem, but a wall from sea to shining sea is super silly.

    Detaining more kids and putting them in worse situations than we used to will not help anything.
    So your plan is to just let kids wander without direction? We're not separating families any longer... so kids in detention without parents are kids that came without parents. Why not fund and prepare for the influx rather than ignore the crisis and then try to blame the outcome on political "enemies"? Is it okay for your leaders in congress to ignore the issue, deny funding, and hurt these kids so you can pretend you are making a point and pretend that your political "enemies" are bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Notice how the German Jews have blankets.
    Notice also that the German Jews were forced to go there, while in the other image the people literally crossed several countries, supposedly on foot without funding, to get there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    NOt relevant to this discussion, bad acts by the parents does not mean you get to treat children badly.
    Which again leads to the central question, this is evidence of the crisis not indicative of how we want to treat children. Demand your congressional leadership fund these facilities so that these children do not have to go through this. Put up, or shut up. We can't let these kids just wander without parents so we have to do something with them until we figure out where they will go after the facility. Fund it like it is the crisis it clearly is and you'll have less to complain about. Of course you won't, I think, because these kids don't matter to you or to your leadership in congress other than as a means to make a political point.
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