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Thread: Trump Rape Charge With Credible Evidence -Scant Coverage Compared To Clinton / Monica

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    Default Trump Rape Charge With Credible Evidence -Scant Coverage Compared To Clinton / Monica

    "On Friday, veteran journalist E. Jean Carroll publicly accused Donald Trump of rape, writing in The Cut that he attacked her in a department store dressing room in the '90s. This should be an incredibly serious story, deserving of at least the wall-to-wall coverage and outrage that greeted Bill Clinton for his icky-but-consensual affair with Monica Lewinsky. It certainly deserves the same overwhelming amount of coverage that was given to the accusations against Harvey Weinstein, as Weinstein is a fading movie mogul and Trump is currently the most powerful man in the world.

    And yet, somehow, the story felt doomed to fade into the background as soon as Carroll, who is clearly feeling serious anxiety about speaking out, first shared her story. As Media Matters demonstrated, nearly all the major newspapers left the story off the front page the next morning, and the one that didn't, the Washington Post, still had it lower on the page than other major stories. Sunday news shows also largely ignored the story.

    Part of the problem, no doubt, is that there's so much horrible stuff happening right now the Republican hawks trying to get Trump to start a war with Iran, the deadly concentration camps growing on the southern border, Trump threatening mass deportations that it's hard for the news media to adequately capture it all. But that's not the full explanation, as many of these papers front-paged much less important stories than the rape allegation, such as Bernie Sanders's wife's past controversies, NASA's moon rock security protocols, and the efforts to decriminalize psychedelic drugs.

    Nor is this one of those "he said/she said" situations that often get relegated to the back pages because newspaper editors fear elevating accusations that have little corroborating evidence. This story is backed by significant evidence. Carroll told two friends at the time. Over a dozen women have already come forward with stories about Trump sexually assaulting them. Trump's first wife, Ivana Trump, also testified during a deposition that he raped her, though she has later tried to retract the word "rape" while not actually retracting the details of what she says he did. (Note that Trump has a long history of controlling his ex-wives by threatening to pull alimony.)

    And, of course, there's Trump's recorded, uncoerced confession from the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape in which he, on a hot mic, was caught bragging to Billy Bush about how he likes to corner women and even "grab them by the pussy." Also noteworthy is that the M.O. Trump described to Bush taking a woman shopping and then "mov[ing] on her like a bitch" is what Carroll says he did to her.

    In addition, Trump's reaction to the allegations was to tell a transparent and easily disproved lie, by claiming he never met Carroll. In fact, there's a picture of them together in the original story. Trump also somehow remembered the name of the ex-husband of this woman he says he never met.

    Trump also issued an unsubtle threat aimed at Carroll and, clearly, any other women who might have similar stories to tell. Someone who lies and intimidates witnesses like that is generally understood to be acting like a guilty person.

    While the right wing press is trying to portray Carroll as a crazy person by posting pictures of her wearing whimsical clothing, the truth is that she's a well-respected journalist, exactly the sort of person who would, under most circumstances, be taken very seriously by the mainstream media.

    This simply isn't one of those cases when a woman comes out of nowhere with a story that no one can corroborate. This is very much like the allegations against Weinstein: Well-evidenced, part of a pattern of behavior, from a woman who is clearly fighting against her own reluctance to speak out, and towards a man who is already known to be a bully and a misogynist.

    No, the likeliest reason that this story isn't getting the heavy coverage that it deserves is that the media has a bias towards stories that are surprising and new. What would be more surprising is hearing a story about Trump not seizing a chance to assault a former beauty queen the second he thought he could get away with it.

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    "...there's no number of rape accusations, no number of taped confessions, no amount of evidence against Trump that will turn his base against him. Because they don't believe he's innocent. They just don't care if he's guilty. And they think women who speak out about sexual violence are being spoilsports.

    This isn't a situation, like the Bill Cosby accusations or even the revelations from the "Leaving Neverland" documentary regarding Michael Jackson, where new information is going to cause people to reassess what they thought they knew and change their minds. Both Trump opponents and supporters are exactly where they were before this latest accusation, with the former correctly believing he's a creepy sexual predator and the latter simply not caring if he's a creepy sexual predator.

    But the fact that this story won't shift partisan opinion isn't the only metric of whether it matters. That the president is quite likely a rapist and that he's demonstrably lying in his denials of rape should matter, even if 40% of the country doesn't care. Sexual assault, both rape and the "grab them by the pussy" kind that Trump confessed to, is a crime, and it matters that a man who probably should be in jail is instead sitting in the White House.

    It also matters that Trump is a sexual predator because it clearly matters to the Trump opposition. The reason the biggest protest in American history was the Women's March stems directly from women's outrage that the nation elected a shameless sexual predator. Women are the backbone of the resistance, and a huge part of why so many women get up every day to fight is Trump reminds them not just how common sexual assault is, but how easy it still is for men to get away with it.

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    If Hillary became president and this was Bill Clinton being accused?

    The media would be ALL OVER IT.

    Trump would MELT HIS PHONE tweeting about it.
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    Conservatives don't want to talk about how bad a person Trump is.

    They do back flips to ignore his crimes.
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    Where there is smoke, there usually is fire. We will see.

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    Personally, I think his dirty money dealings will be what will sink him.

    I bet Paul Manafort is RIGHT.
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