AOC Says Trump Holding Separated Immigrant Children In Deplorable Concentration Camps

[PoliTalker]

"“This week, immigrant children were moved to the same internment camps the Japanese were held in the earlier 20th century,” she said of the Fort Sill, Okla., Army base used to house Japanese-American people after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. Last week, the Trump administration shared plans to use that base to house unclaimed immigrant children.

“This is a crisis for ourselves,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “This is a crisis of if America will remain America in its actual principals and values. Or if we are losing to an authoritarian and fascist presidency.”

The Democrat warned, “I don’t use those words lightly. I don’t use those words to just throw bombs. I use that word because that is what an administration that creates concentration camps is. And a presidency that creates concentration camps is fascist.”"

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"Later, Ocasio-Cortez wrote, “And for the shrieking Republicans who don’t know the difference: concentration camps are not the same as death camps. Concentration camps are considered by experts as ‘the mass detention of civilians without trial.’ And that’s exactly what this administration is doing.”"

AOC Concerned About Deplorable Detention Conditions

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"The Associated Press is reporting some 250 infants, children and teenagers have been locked up for up to 27 days without adequate food, water and sanitation at a Border Patrol station near El Paso, Texas. One local lawyer said a sick 2-year-old boy was being treated by three girls between the ages of 10 and 15 because no one else was helping him. Children have reportedly been fed uncooked frozen food or rice and have gone weeks without bathing or clean clothes. Attorney Holly Cooper said, “In my 22 years of doing visits with children in detention I have never heard of this level of inhumanity.”"

Democracy Now

It has also been reported that some children have lice and are not receiving adequate treatment. They are being asked to share lice combs (something that should never be done) and if they lose the comb they are punished by having other meager health supplies taken away.

What a total outrage.

[Cinnabar]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks were intended to be inflammatory, but she usefully highlighted an important historical truth.

The U.S. immigration detention facilities are the Hades type of concentration camp. They are expressly designed to keep “superfluous and bothersome people,” as Arendt called them, out of the way. The conditions in them can be intensely uncomfortable, but tormenting inmates isn’t the primary goal, and there’s certainly no hard labor.

Whether or not AOC is familiar with this history, she certainly knew exactly the power her words held; if it were not for the Nazis, the very term “concentration camp” would not fill us with quite the same horror. But there’s no need to be as evil as the Nazis to go down in concentration camp history. Several U.S. administrations have gone down this inglorious road, but Trump’s may have crossed an important line, and AOC was right to call it out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ntration-camps

A few excerpt but the entire article is well worth the read and kudos to Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez for shining a bright light on this.

[Grokmaster]

Where was the "outrage" when Obama did the same and WORSE, such as handing kids over to traffickers?


The border patrol is SWAMPED, and we can thank the ILLEGALOCRATS for that....

[PoliTalker]

Too funny comparing Trump to Obama.

Such propaganda.

[anatta]

Congress still hasn't passed the $4.5 billion wanted for humanitarian border aid -requested months ago

House Democrats Unveil $4.5B Border Measure
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/de.../21/id/921498/

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cinnabar,

A few excerpt but the entire article is well worth the read and kudos to Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez for shining a bright light on this.

How silly of me to want to try to follow the site rules here and not post articles in entirety but do post a link.

Reading the article really does make me understand the crying need for universal healthcare.

The nation needs health care.

The nation needs to pay for it.

The nation will benefit from taking care of the populace.

What is a nation without her people?

AOC has a penchant for making excellent points.

I look forward to her going quite far.

She's just beginning. At 29 years old she is the youngest woman to ever serve in Congress.

She will eligible to run for President in 2024.

[Cypress]

AOC Says Trump Holding Separated Immigrant Children In Deplorable Concentration Camps

What a total outrage.

I think she is right to shine a spotlight on this.

Part of me can understand why people object to use of the words concentration camp. I have relatives who were arrested and sent to the Gulag, and certainly there is simply no historical parallel to Aushwitz and Treblenka.

But as long as we understand there are gradations in the mass confinement of people, and I not going to begrudge her choice of words is they are used in a realistic and effective attempt at rhetorical persuasion.

[Adolf_Twitler]

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[Sirthinksalot]

AOC Says Trump Holding Separated Immigrant Children In Deplorable Concentration Camps

Hi Politalker,

Wait, Trump is making immigrant children live in camps with his base?!!!

Also, you forgot the word "illegal" again.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cypress,

I think she is right to shine a spotlight on this.

Thank you.

Part of me can understand why people object to use of the words concentration camp. I have relatives who were arrested and sent to the Gulag, and certainly there is simply no historical parallel to Aushwitz and Treblenka.

But as long as we understand there are gradations in the mass confinement of people, and I not going to begrudge her choice of words is they are used in a realistic and effective attempt at rhetorical persuasion.

Thank you.

The atrocities of WWII in those places were truly horrible. Not all concentration camps were on the level of Aushwitz and Treblenka. Conservatives are overlooking that, looking for any way to fulfill Trump's dictate: "Deny, Deflect, Attack." In this case they are using a strange angle to attack AOC.

What they don't get is that this plays right into AOC's hand. She is a clever one, and that is why she scares the heck out of Trump fans. She knows how to manipulate the media, but in a good way. She doesn't have to lie, doesn't have to make it all about her all the time. She knows how to use hot-button terms and angles to get results. I have high hopes for her to go a long way. She's a natural for fighting the negative Trump mentality.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Adolf_Twitler,

Wow! Would you just look at all the idiots!

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Funny, but I don't think of the people on my Ignore List that way. They are angry and have shown a willingness to be mean and disrespectful. I don't hold any grudges; I just don't want to read what they have to say, and I don't want to be bothered to scroll through myriads of pages of unwanted posts. Neither do I appreciate having frustrated inconsiderate people unload in my threads and poison the discussions. So they get banned from my threads. You'll notice there are some liberals in there as well. For me, it's all about civility.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Sirthinksalot,

Hi Politalker,

Wait, Trump is making immigrant children live in camps with his base?!!!

Yeah, that's only funny to Trump fans who wish to deflect from the issue, and don't care in the least about the plight of these migrants.

Also, you forgot the word "illegal" again.

You'll have to pardon me for not using the conservative propaganda rhetoric term. I am a compassionate person who cares about others. I know. It's a strange concept for conservatives. Thinking that we humans all live on this planet together and that it is logical for us to care about one another.

[Celticguy]

Folks at the Holocaust Museum who have a pretty extensive understanding of condition at actual concentration camps tell us she is wrong.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Celticguy,

Folks at the Holocaust Museum who have a pretty extensive understanding of condition at actual concentration camps tell us she is wrong.

The concentration camps of the WWII German holocaust are not the only types of concentration camps. They don't own the term.

[Stretch]

AOC is a flame-thrower. I'm waiting for her to call Ellis Island a "concentration camp".
There must be detainment centers for people to be vetted and processed prior to full entry into a country.