Fifty Years Ago Today....

[Aimée]

Good for you guys!

Thank you! It was a quick and easy passage. I am loving having sanity back in my state again.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Thank you! It was a quick and easy passage. I am loving having sanity back in my state again.

I bet you're glad to be shut of Governor Redneck too, eh?

[Aimée]

I bet you're glad to be shut of Governor Redneck too, eh?

Oh, my gosh! Governor Mills is a breath of fresh air! LOL! It certainly feels great to not be embarrassed anymore.

[Guno צְבִי]

Back in the early 70'S long island NY banned foam plates and cups and detergent containing phosphorous

[ThatOwlWoman]

Oh, my gosh! Governor Mills is a breath of fresh air! LOL! It certainly feels great to not be embarrassed anymore.

What do you think of Sen. Collin's chances of reelection?

[Truth Detector]

.... The Cuyahoga River caught fire. Again.

https://www.businessinsider.com/vint...ore-epa-2019-6

At least a dozen other fires, sparked by pollution in the water, broke out on the river in the late 1800s and 1900s.

Who is against clean water? Anyone? Why can't States deal with this? It's not a Federal matter.

[ThatOwlWoman]

At least a dozen other fires, sparked by pollution in the water, broke out on the river in the late 1800s and 1900s.

Who is against clean water? Anyone? Why can't States deal with this? It's not a Federal matter.

It's a federal matter because streams cross state boundaries, and states often share lakes. What good does it do for Illinois and Arkansas, for instance, to have regulations regarding what can be dumped in the Mississippi, if Missouri doesn't give a shit? Isn't that kind of unfair to everyone else downstream from Missouri?

[Truth Detector]

It's a federal matter because streams cross state boundaries, and states often share lakes. What good does it do for Illinois and Arkansas, for instance, to have regulations regarding what can be dumped in the Mississippi, if Missouri doesn't give a shit? Isn't that kind of unfair to everyone else downstream from Missouri?

Why do you think the citizens of ANY state want dirty water?

[Bill]

The parental units took us on a three-week trip out West in 1969. I remember the Truckee River, how clear and cold and beautiful it was. And Lake Tahoe, too. Nothing like the filthy brown sludge that we called the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers back home. Sometimes we would see someone pulled off on the side of the road, fly-fishing in the Truckee. Do they still do that?

Yes, quite pristine...

Mississippi~when I lived in NOLA the joke was the water was drank 10 times before it got there (mid 70's), not so funny if you lived there & had nothing else to drink..

The water, no exaggeration, if you held up to a light, had a yellow tinge to it... No matter how long you ran the faucet..

Now w/ Reno growing so much there isn't as much water in the Truckee, (Last few an exception) so not as much but most now go over to the walker & Carson rivers were reliable flows can be counted on.....

[Adolf_Twitler]

A century ago, Centralia, Pennsylvania was a busy small town filled with shops, residents and a brisk mining business. Coal from local mines fueled its homes and its economy, and its 1,200 residents worked, played and lived as tight-knit neighbors.

Today couldn’t be more different. Centralia’s streets are abandoned. Most of its buildings are gone, and smoke wafts down graffiti-strewn highways where a prosperous town once stood. The formerly busy burg has turned into a ghost town. The cause was something that’s still happening beneath Centralia’s empty streets: a mine fire that’s been burning for over 50 years, resulting in the devastation of a community and the eviction and impoverishment of many of its residents.

Coal seam fires are nothing new, but Centralia’s is the United States’ worst and one of history’s most devastating. Before the 1962 fire, Centralia had been a mining center for over a century. Home to a rich deposit of anthracite coal, the town was incorporated after mining began in the 1850s.

[The History Channel]

[Bill]

A century ago, Centralia, Pennsylvania was a busy small town filled with shops, residents and a brisk mining business. Coal from local mines fueled its homes and its economy, and its 1,200 residents worked, played and lived as tight-knit neighbors.

Today couldn’t be more different. Centralia’s streets are abandoned. Most of its buildings are gone, and smoke wafts down graffiti-strewn highways where a prosperous town once stood. The formerly busy burg has turned into a ghost town. The cause was something that’s still happening beneath Centralia’s empty streets: a mine fire that’s been burning for over 50 years, resulting in the devastation of a community and the eviction and impoverishment of many of its residents.

Coal seam fires are nothing new, but Centralia’s is the United States’ worst and one of history’s most devastating. Before the 1962 fire, Centralia had been a mining center for over a century. Home to a rich deposit of anthracite coal, the town was incorporated after mining began in the 1850s.

[The History Channel]

I have heard of these, but 50 years, WTF?? no way to put them out??

[ThatOwlWoman]

Why do you think the citizens of ANY state want dirty water?

I'm not sure why you're so confused. Did I say that? No, I did not. If you want an adult discussion, try responding to what is written rather than making up shit.

OTOH, the Toadstool is doing everything possible to roll back environmental protections, with a wink and a nod from industry who whines that it's too expensive to not pollute. Would you like a serving of coal ash in your tap water?

https://content.sierraclub.org/coal/...atens-families

[ThatOwlWoman]

I have heard of these, but 50 years, WTF?? no way to put them out??

I was just going to ask the same thing.

[Adolf_Twitler]

I have heard of these, but 50 years, WTF?? no way to put them out??

Here is an interesting read about the challenge and the damage done to our planet because of these fires.

https://www.earthmagazine.org/articl...e-centralia-pa

[ThatOwlWoman]

Here is an interesting read about the challenge and the damage done to our planet because of these fires.

https://www.earthmagazine.org/articl...e-centralia-pa

Holy jeebus. This is terrifying.

"In addition to carbon dioxide, “coal fires produce as many as 60 different toxic compounds, many of which are carcinogenic,” says Glenn Stracher, an expert on coal fires at East Georgia College in Swainsboro. Such toxins include arsenic, selenium, fluorine, sulfur, lead, copper, bismuth, tin, germanium and mercury, he says. Robert Finkelman, a medical geologist at the University of Texas at Dallas, estimates that 40 tons of mercury are released every year by uncontrolled coal fires, which is on a par with the amount produced by coal-fired power plants in the United States. “If we could extinguish those fires,” he says, “it would make a worthwhile contribution to reducing mercury pollution as well as carbon dioxide and other toxic elements.”"

and

"China alone loses between 100 million and 200 million tons of coal each year to mine fires, as much as 20 percent of their annual production, according to the International Institute for Geo-Information Science and Earth Observation, based in Enschede, Netherlands. The Institute estimates that carbon dioxide emissions from these fires are as high as 1.1 billion metric tons, more than the total carbon dioxide emissions from automobiles in the United States. Second to China is India, where 10 million tons of coal burns annually in mine fires, contributing a further 51 million metric tons of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere."

Poor Gaia.