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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Good question. I have a hunch that he won't be okay with that example of yours, but I'll let him speak for himself.
    When you are the one threatened, you tend to take it personally. The guns are a direct threat to her. If she can get his illegal guns taken away, she wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Since dumbass domer thinks it's ok for this woman to take the law into her own hands to enforce a court order about her husband not having guns...

    I wonder if he thinks US citizens should be able to round up and remove illegals who have court orders for deportation.


    It’s just fucking hilarious watching you stupid fucks grasping for some sort of analogy and failing miserably at it.

    Based on his past history of domestic abuse, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and violation of protective orders, she reasonably perceived an imminent threat to her life and her family’s life. Self defense. No criminal intent.

    I will love to hear her testimony in any trial that she may face, which is highly doubtful. When she describes the incidents of abuse and the fear it instilled, when she describes her car being rammed by him and the fear it instilled, when she describes the violation of protection orders and the fear it instilled, there is no jury in the world that will convict her for being proactive to protect her life and her family’s lives.

    I will love to hear that same testimony at his trials. He’s fucking toast. Best for him to cop a plea.

    Her fate? Not guilty and freedom.
    His fate? Guilty and in jail.

    Bet on it bitch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    It's people like you who show why victims of domestic abuse often don't report it.

    Irby abused his wife and tried to kill or hurt her in her car; he's also had more than one protective order against him. Mrs. Irby's crime was taking two guns to the police station without getting his permission.

    He gets freed after an overnight stay in jail; she gets five nights and six days in the slammer. The system sucks and so do the men of the Lakeland police force. I sure hope we don't read that she was a homicide victim after the husband got access to his guns again.
    Now you're just flat out lying; because her crime was breaking and entering, plus theft and probably a few more charges.

    They both deserve jail time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    It’s just fucking hilarious watching you stupid fucks grasping for some sort of analogy and failing miserably at it.

    Based on his past history of domestic abuse, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and violation of protective orders, she reasonably perceived an imminent threat to her life and her family’s life. Self defense. No criminal intent.

    I will love to hear her testimony in any trial that she may face, which is highly doubtful. When she describes the incidents of abuse and the fear it instilled, when she describes her car being rammed by him and the fear it instilled, when she describes the violation of protection orders and the fear it instilled, there is no jury in the world that will convict her for being proactive to protect her life and her family’s lives.

    I will love to hear that same testimony at his trials. He’s fucking toast. Best for him to cop a plea.

    Her fate? Not guilty and freedom.
    His fate? Guilty and in jail.

    Bet on it bitch.

    How was he an "imminent threat", when he was in jail at the time of her break in and theft??

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Self defense, cunt. 100%. She merely did not have to use force.

    Prove criminal intent, cunt.

    That wasn't even a good deflection, you laughable cunt. You claimed she was justified in burglarizing her estranged husband's home and stealing his property because there was a court order that he not possess said property. If people are entitled to take the law into their own hands because a court order has been issued, should citizens be empowered to detain and remove illegal aliens who are subject to court orders of deportation? It's a straightforward question and a perfectly relevant analogy, pally boy. I don't expect you to answer of course. Pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post





    Joseph Irby allegedly rammed his wife’s car off the road. She ended up behind bars.
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    By Melissa Jeltsen



    An alleged victim of domestic violence in Florida was arrested and charged with armed burglary after she removed her estranged husband’s guns from his residence and brought them to a police department for safekeeping.

    The case exemplifies the practical challenges of disarming domestic abusers, especially in a state like Florida where almost one-third of the population owns firearms.


    On June 14, Courtney Irby was in court with her husband for a divorce hearing. According to an arrest affidavit, Joseph Irby followed his wife as she left the courthouse and began ramming his car into the back of her vehicle, ultimately driving her off the road. She called police “uncontrollably crying and advised that she was in fear for her life,” the affidavit reads. She also disclosed that she’d had a number of protective orders against her husband in the past.

    Police arrested Joseph Irby and charged him with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Courtney Irby applied for a temporary injunction for protection.

    The next morning, she testified at her husband’s hearing over the phone. A judge granted Joseph Irby pretrial release with the condition that he not own, possess or carry firearms. Hearing this, Courtney Irby went to her husband’s residence and located his two guns ― an assault rifle and a handgun ― and took them to Lakeland Police Department.

    According to court documents, she told the police officer on duty that her husband had been arrested the day before, and that she wanted to hand in his guns because she didn’t believe he would turn them in.

    The police officer asked if she had taken her husband’s firearms without his permission. When she replied yes, he told her that she was confessing to a crime. Police arrested her and she was charged with armed burglary of a dwelling and grand theft of a firearm.

    Lakeland Police Department did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment.

    The police officer asked if she had taken her husband’s firearms without his permission. When she replied yes, he told her that she was confessing to a crime.


    While Joseph Irby was released the day after his domestic violence arrest, Courtney Irby spent five nights and six days behind bars before being granted bond.

    Her lawyer, Lawrence Shearer, told HuffPost that his client was upset and distressed. He said that her actions did not amount to theft under Florida law because she was not taking the guns for herself but rather transferring them to the police department, where her husband could collect them at a later date.

    “Theft is to deprive someone of the right or benefit of property,” he said. “She didn’t do either one of those. She was taking them to the police department for safekeeping.”

    Shearer added: “I have faith in our state attorney’s office that they will do the right thing.”

    The issue of disarming domestic abusers has been a key priority for gun safety groups over the past five years. In Florida, like many states, when a domestic abuser is ordered not to own firearms, there is no mechanism to ensure the perpetrator gives them up ― a loophole called the “relinquishment gap.”

    The research is clear: When abusers are armed, their victims are far more likely to be killed. In the U.S., a woman is shot to death by an intimate partner every 16 hours. There are an estimated 200 domestic violence deaths in Florida each year. States that mandate alleged domestic violence perpetrators to hand over their firearms ― instead of just telling them no guns allowed ― experience fewer homicides.

    Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, said Florida police could also have sought a risk protection order to remove Joseph Irby’s guns, thanks to a “red flag” law passed by state legislators after the Parkland shooting.

    “Instead, they jailed a domestic abuse victim and mother without bail for attempting to keep her family safe,” Watts said. “This man - who poses a clear danger to his family - currently has access to his arsenal.”
    I assume the KGB operatives at the NRA would say the solution is for this woman to buy an AK-47, flash bang grenades, and to festoon her house with land mines.

    An armed society is a civil society!

    Now, if I were this lady, my strategy would be to get some booby trap ideas from the "Home Alone" series.


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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    It’s just fucking hilarious watching you stupid fucks grasping for some sort of analogy and failing miserably at it.
    If by "some sort of analogy" you mean a relevant and salient one, yeah that's what it was.

    Based on his past history of domestic abuse, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and violation of protective orders, she reasonably perceived an imminent threat to her life and her family’s life. Self defense. No criminal intent.
    Let's be clear that the deadly weapon in question was his vehicle, not a firearm, but feel free to babble on, illiterate fucktard.

    I will love to hear her testimony in any trial that she may face, which is highly doubtful. When she describes the incidents of abuse and the fear it instilled, when she describes her car being rammed by him and the fear it instilled, when she describes the violation of protection orders and the fear it instilled, there is no jury in the world that will convict her for being proactive to protect her life and her family’s lives.

    I will love to hear that same testimony at his trials. He’s fucking toast. Best for him to cop a plea.

    Her fate? Not guilty and freedom.
    His fate? Guilty and in jail.

    Bet on it bitch.

    Keep on deflecting, you laughable cunt. You claimed she was justified in burglarizing her estranged husband's home and stealing his property because there was a court order that he not possess said property. If people are entitled to take the law into their own hands because a court order has been issued, should citizens be empowered to detain and remove illegal aliens who are subject to court orders of deportation? It's a straightforward question and a perfectly relevant analogy, pally boy. I don't expect you to answer of course. Pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    If she were wearing a MAGA hat you''d love her eyes.
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    This atrocity goes to show, everyone in America are under the demonic umbrella of a tRump influenced barbaric and criminal regime against humanity, and to the point so-called law enforcement believes it has the liberty at using this tRump atrocity as leverage to do so. If this woman felt her life was in danger and was able to issue a justified complaint, why wasn't she at least given that type of consideration and to ensure her safety. Additionally when it comes to marriage, would those guns be her property too when it comes to joint property of a husband and wife? Anyway, tRump's country is now a un safe country where barbaric rampaging is currently what America has come to be, and of course, tRump's dictated policies from his pimp Putin and other enemies of America to destroy Democracy, the well being of American society and its soul to. Yet this atrocity has global implications too which these uncivilized policies of tRump's regime has spread to other nations in the world. I suppose a slight miscalculation of the intent of lawlessly hacking tRump in there to be a destructive influence on America only. After they are finished with her, I hope she follows that atrocity up with a lawsuit when it comes to emotional distress and dereliction of duty among so-called law enforcement or abuse of authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    This atrocity goes to show, everyone in America are under the demonic umbrella of a tRump influenced barbaric and criminal regime against humanity, and to the point so-called law enforcement believes it has the liberty at using this tRump atrocity as leverage to do so. If this woman felt her life was in danger and was able to issue a justified complaint, why wasn't she at least given that type of consideration and to ensure her safety. Additionally when it comes to marriage, would those guns be her property too when it comes to joint property of a husband and wife? Anyway, tRump's country is now a un safe country where barbaric rampaging is currently what America has come to be, and of course, tRump's dictated policies from his pimp Putin and other enemies of America to destroy Democracy, the well being of American society and its soul to. Yet this atrocity has global implications too which these uncivilized policies of tRump's regime has spread to other nations in the world. I suppose a slight miscalculation of the intent of lawlessly hacking tRump in there to be a destructive influence on America only. After they are finished with her, I hope she follows that atrocity up with a lawsuit when it comes to emotional distress and dereliction of duty among so-called law enforcement or abuse of authority.
    Wow, your ability to make this about Trump shows you have a particularly virulent and advanced case of TDS. You should seek medical help immediately for a rectal cranial extraction, ASAP before it becomes fatal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    When you are the one threatened, you tend to take it personally. The guns are a direct threat to her. If she can get his illegal guns taken away, she wins.
    She didn't attempt to "get his guns taken away". She burglarized his home and stole them. What she did with them afterwards is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Yeah, nothing about spousal abuse.

    He rammed her car with his in the parking lot. Several restraining orders. A court order to not possess weapons. Arrested for domestic abuse.

    Fucking moron.
    Deductive Reasoning: Try it sometime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning

    And this makes her vigilante action acceptable in this nation based upon THE RULE OF LAW? The hubby breaks the law and this somehow gives wiffey a freebee...a get out of jail free card? A thief is a thief....and a progressive Darwinist Cultist is STEAL/still (pun intended) an immoral religious nut job. No...…..the ends do not justify the means. Lying is immoral, stealing is immoral. Why does the left always take a position contrary to the rule of law? I CAN SEE WHY YOU ARE A COMMUNIST LEFTY.....you have no capacity for critical independent thinking. Its mob mentality based upon emotion rather than facts in evidence.

    Just document where this "FEMALE" was made an agent of the court, a law enforcement agent, or hell even a LOCK SMITH......before she broke into a private residence and committed the felony of theft via Burglary. In the United States "Burglary" is prosecuted as a FELONY.

    As far as the court and the HUSBAND....its the duty of the court to carry out court orders, not the estranged spouse on a mission of vengeance. Did you not read or comprehend the article? The Husband was arrested and released. Now its time for BABBY DOLL to visit the gray bar hotel and post bail.


    You sound like the typical leftist attempting to justify immorality due to circumstances brought upon oneself via free will decisions. Example: attempting to justify ignoring the rule of law for stealing food (the private property of another)…..because they were hungry....their children were hungry....yada, yada, yada, never minding the fact that MOMS and POPS either smoked up the welfare stiffen or shot it up in their arms, or simply used a months supply of food stamp credits that could have bought nutritional food for month but instead bought chips, sodas, twinkies…..etc.,

    Progressives are always and will for evermore be the perpetual VICTIM.


    Just like liberty and social progressivism mix like oil and water......REASON and LOGIC appear to be alienated subjects of leftists.

    Just why do you assume LADY JUSTICE is blindfolded? Because she is supposed to make a decision based upon facts in evidence.....not emotional bullshit. Facts are void of emotion.....Justice is not dealt out on some sliding scale, there are no 2 or 3 different scales.....one for common folk, one for the rich, one for the elite...etc., Facts in evidence do not require measurement......just adherence.

    In lay terms....this FEMALE is guilty as hell of committing a felony.....as self confessed. At least she is not guilty of the immorality of LYING HER ASS OFF....she admitted to the crime because she was stupid enough to think that she had the right to steal personal property under the pretext of following some court order (when she was not an agent of any law enforcement agency)….and it fact was probably in violation of some restraining order when she entered her estranged spouses house. This is where logic and reason come into play...….if she actually feared her ex so much that there was some type of restraining order placed against him....why did she openly come with so many feet of this man's property, clearly without fear of any harm?
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    Really? Not only tRump because the tyrant would not have lawlessly slithered in there had it not been for the result of your god tRump on video soliciting a foreign enemy to hack the election in his favor, using antigovernment conspiring GOPer cronies to destroy the legitimacy of the electoral college to vote in favor of this career demagogue, tyrant and bully tRump, more GOPer inspired voter suppression and rigging all of it in violation of U.S. Constitutional law. Yet tRump's brainwashed cult followers who voted for your god tRump with a hater attitude and after getting warned and after tRump called them all stupid, uneducated and easy to manipulate are just a washed up after thought who were not the atrocity that ultimately got your beloved #45 slave of the devil in there. This includes his half Russian and criminal family in the White House as a stomach turning desecration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    Just like the rest of you ignorant cocksuckers, offering an irrelevant and absurd analogy. She wasn’t “offended”, cunt. She perceived imminent danger for her life and her family’s life. What a laughable and lame comparison.

    Pathetic fucking moron.
    Bottom line...she broke the law by breaking in and robbing him.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    They can have supervised probation just like they do with DUIs where alcohol is not permitted in the residence
    You would know...

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