Trump dismisses UN request for FBI to investigate Jamal Khashoggi's murder

**Superfreak** · 06-26-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by moon

OK- Khashoggi was IN the USA and left the US to travel to Turkey to attend the Saudi embassy due to information he received IN the USA . The investigation will want to how this information was delivered to him IN the USA and what advice was given to him regarding travel to Turkey while he was IN the USA and who was it IN the USA that provided the advice which led to his murder and dismemberment.
Trump is refusing to provide this assistance. The stink pervades.

where are you seeing the above info? I am looking through it all and haven't run across it yet. Given the length of the report, can you pinpoint it for me? Thanks

**Superfreak** · 06-26-2019, 02:38 PM

Moon, just to be clear, from the info in the report (its link is in the article you linked in the OP)...

He wanted to get married in Turkey. He needed the fathers (who lives in Turkey) blessing. He also needed documentation from Saudi that he was no longer married. He went to the Saudi consulate in the US and they told him he had to go to the one in turkey. The Saudi consulate, while on our soil, is not US territory. Not positive, but pretty sure an info he got from the consulate is not under FBI jurisdiction.

Outside of that one piece, after reading the report I don't see anything else that was done in the US.

FYI... he was traveling to Turkey no matter what... that is where he was getting married. To a Turkish woman.

**moon** · 06-26-2019, 02:44 PM

? Have you read post #73 ?

**gemini104104** · 06-26-2019, 02:51 PM

Clearly tRump was not lawlessly hack, rigged and manipulated in there to be a real president but a thug, demagogue and menace on the world who is also a threat against the well being of America and its image. tRump and his fellow antigovernment conspiring GOPer demagogues have no solidarity with Democracy but only with enemies and fellow despots in the world.

**Superfreak** · 06-26-2019, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by moon

? Have you read post #73 ?

Ironically, I just did. Hadn't seen it prior. That said, did you read the report from the Canadians? They said they did not find credible evidence on the info you posted in 73. So unless the anonymous sources come forward or documentation is provided... not seeing enough to warrant it. Not making any final calls by any means, because there is likely a lot we still do not know. Trying to get the FBI to investigate the NSA... not really seeing that happening, unless documentation of intercepts is provided. But I could be wrong.

If they did get that, then yes, they should have warned him.

link for report... https://www.ohchr.org/en/NewsEvents/...24713&LangID=E

**Superfreak** · 06-26-2019, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by moon

Wassup ? Starting to notice the odor ?

Do you see a date as to when US intel intercepted that?

**moon** · 06-26-2019, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Superfreak

Do you see a date as to when US intel intercepted that?

Not yet- but my curiosity is roused. I'll see what the UN response is to Trump's refusal as a next step.

**PostmodernProphet** · 06-26-2019, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by moon

The request was for the FBI to ASSIST, PostmortemProphylactic, not for the FBI to take over the murder investigation.
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why do the kanookians need help?......

**PostmodernProphet** · 06-26-2019, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by moon

OK- Khashoggi was IN the USA and left the US to travel to Turkey to attend the Saudi embassy due to information he received IN the USA . The investigation will want to how this information was delivered to him IN the USA and what advice was given to him regarding travel to Turkey while he was IN the USA and who was it IN the USA that provided the advice which led to his murder and dismemberment.

so you acknowledge the crime didn't occur here or involve an American citizen......thanks.....

**PostmodernProphet** · 06-26-2019, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by moon

OK ? US intelligence is in this up to its neck.

I would ask- did the US betray Khashoggi in order to SECURE arms deals with the Saudi degenerates ? Is that why Trump has dropped the shutters ?

have the kanookians let us know when they find out.....

**moon** · 06-26-2019, 03:20 PM

You'll get the picture, PostmortemProphylactic, when the adults discuss and post it. Troll on 'til then.

**moon** · 06-26-2019, 04:11 PM

'Time to act': UN expert urges international Khashoggi probe
Agnes Callamard says Saudi trial of suspects in Khashoggi killing not being carried out in 'good faith'.

In a harsh statement on Wednesday, Agnes Callamard, UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, said ignoring the targeted killing will put the protection of free speech at risk.

"The time to act is now," she said, reiterating her appeal for an international criminal investigation.

Callamard criticised the UN while presenting her report into the killing of Khashoggi, who was murdered by a team of Saudi agents in the country's consulate in Istanbul, to the Human Rights Council in Geneva.

Addressing the media on Tuesday she had expressed her frustration at the UN, saying "there was a role for the UN to investigate this. The silence of this intergovernmental body and the lack of measures were a disservice to the UN and to the world."

'Joints will be separated': Grim new details of Khashoggi murder (5:12)
Secretary-General Guterres gave a chilly response to Callamard's appeal.

"The only way to effectively pursue such an investigation is through a Security Council's resolution under the appropriate measures," said Guterres's spokesman Stephane Dujarric on Tuesday, adding that the secretary-general was "not hiding behind any protocol".

Callamard on Wednesday told reporters she was "disappointed" by the response, adding that "it is in his power to ... to establish this panel of [criminal] experts."

"I don't believe you need a member state official demand," she added. "This being said, I certainly call on member states to proceed with that official demarche so that the secretary-general will not be able to just create more firewalls between him and his responsibilities to take action."

Callamard is an independent expert who does not speak for the UN, but reports her findings to it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...161809811.html

Hmmmmmm. It appears that the UN Secretary General has split loyalties.

**Superfreak** · 06-27-2019, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by moon

Not yet- but my curiosity is roused. I'll see what the UN response is to Trump's refusal as a next step.

That is the thing, the date matters. Why would an anonymous source make that claim and then not give the date. If the date of the intercept was July 31, there is likely no time to assess and warn him. If it was June 1, there was plenty of time. Etc...

But again, the UN has no ability to force an FBI investigation, especially when there was very little done in the US in relation to this. The intel intercepts being the only thing of relevance to investigate. i just don't see the FBI investigating the NSA. They would call, NSA would confirm or deny, that would be the extent.

Without more info, I don't really see the need for the FBI to look at anything.

**moon** · 07-10-2019, 04:24 AM

UN rapporteur urges US action over Khashoggi report

Khashoggi's fiancee Hatice Cengiz also calls on UN member states to take report 'more seriously'.

UN special rapporteur Agnes Callamard and Hatice Cengiz, the fiancee of slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi, have warned that democratic values worldwide would be at risk should Saudi Arabia escape accountability for his murder.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...054705419.html

You know what ? Fuck American jobs. What about American values ?