Poll: Do you support slavery reparations?

[artichoke]

Says the only guy who doesnt understand context or sarcasm.

Um...okay.

[artichoke]

Was it absurd when the US white government gave Italians, Jews, Indians and Japanese descendants reparations?

Yes.

What about the $12 million for assistance to Holocaust survivors?

Actual victims? That's different. Still not the place of government to be involved in handing out other people's confiscated money, but at least a little more understandable.

The allocation from the Department of Health and Human Services to the Jewish Federations of North America, to be disbursed over five years, is part of an initiative launched in late 2013 by Vice President Joe Biden to address the needs of survivors in the United States, a quarter of whom live below the poverty line.

And?

It's white people who are blantant with their racism towards Blacks then you get mad when we call you out.

Translation: I called you racist and you got defensive. That proves you're racist. Because only racists take issue with being called racist.

It's a simple question. Why is ok for the other groups to receive reparations but not Blacks?

Actual victims vs. fake ones. You're right, it really IS simple.

And again, this is exactly why it is not the role of government to be handing out other people's confiscated money based on feel-good emotional hippy nonsense...it inevitably raises the question, "What about all these other people you could be blindly funding for no reason?"

[USFREEDOM911]

Or you could just go the much easier route of not having to calculate anything at all...by growing up and moving on instead of bitterly clinging to the past and trying to hash out to the Nth degree who can be screwed over for what. And how much would Africans have to pay in reparations, by your logic, for helping others enslave their people? And how much would the "religion of peace" have to pay for STILL enslaving people throughout the Middle East? This idiotic topic raises a myriad of contradictions and problems that just don't need to exist.

And no, leaving sovereignty-trampling tyrannies like the EU that further concentrate all the power into the hands of the few, further enslaving the people to the elites who CAUSE most of the disasters they have to live through...is not the problem here.

[artichoke]

And they're not greedy parasites either.

[TTQ64]

No point in having this discussion with a bunch ignorant racist or any white American who thinks slavery doesn't have a effect today's Black American.

They don't WANT to understand.

[StoneByStone]

Um...banning only Christians from owning bakeries, florist shops, catering businesses, etc., anytime they choose not to violate their religious beliefs by participating in a homosexual wedding...is turning them into second-class citizens and violating their rights. Not rocket science.

Why is this only being done to Christians? Is that "equality?" And why are Jews not being forced to cater Neo-Nazi rallies?

It's not only being done to Christians. If homophobic Atheists refused service to gays, they could get sued too.

Jews aren't being forced to cater Neo-Nazi rallies because "Neo-Nazi" is not a protected class. Protected classes are things like race, gender, sexual orientation, age, ethnicity, nationality, and so on.

(Hint: You're just too stupid and dishonest to comprehend the gaping holes in your ridiculous argument).

Throw all the tantrums you want, it won't change the fact that you're wrong. Christians aren't oppressed, you're just a cuck who wants to believe his failures are the government's fault.

Pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of liberals defending the death cult as a "religion of peace" while smearing peaceful Christians as wanting to stone homosexuals to death is not claiming that liberals are Muslims, idiot. Try to keep up.

First of all, I've never defended Islam.
Secondly, you didn't mention Islam in your last comment. You just said my religion of peace, as if I had a religion. Try to be aware of what you're saying. I know it's hard, but maybe have a smarter person help you.
Finally, which Liberals are smearing Christians while defending Muslim extremists? Name some mainstream Liberals who have done this.

[artichoke]

No point in having this discussion with a bunch ignorant racist or any white American who thinks slavery doesn't have a effect today's Black American.

They don't WANT to understand.

Don't come to a debate site to insist that there's no point in debating. That's pouting like an unintelligent emotional child (i.e., like a liberal). And resorting to invalid off-topic ad hominem fallacies about everyone being stupid racists with nefarious motives for rejecting your racist stupidity just highlights how self-unaware you are, and the fact that you have already lost this debate.

[artichoke]

It's not only being done to Christians. If homophobic Atheists refused service to gays, they could get sued too.

Wrong again. It's not "refusing service" that's the problem. The bakers all admit that they're perfectly willing to make a cake for a homosexual couple, just not willing to violate their religion by catering a homosexual wedding or making a homosexual WEDDING cake. And yes, when Muslims do the same thing, they ARE held to a completely different standard. Atheists aren't violating their religion in the first place, so the comparison you made doesn't even make sense. Not endorsing or participating in your lifestyle in no way violates your rights, entitled ignoramus.

Get a clue

Jews aren't being forced to cater Neo-Nazi rallies because "Neo-Nazi" is not a protected class.

Free speech is valid, even for extremists (especially for extremists). Arbitrarily invented "protected classes" and the discriminatory special treatment they demand are not constitutionally (or morally valid).

Throw all the tantrums you want,

Pointing out that your logic is full of inconsistencies is now "throwing a tantrum?" Weak.

it won't change the fact that you're wrong.

Nor will mislabeling people as "throwing a tantrum" for correcting your constitutionally illiterate BS or declaring anyone who rejects your unconstitutional ideas "wrong."

Christians aren't oppressed

Except for the plethora of evidence already posted showing that they are being fined, bankrupted, jailed, and turned into second-class citizens for being Christian in public, sure.

Closing your eyes, covering your ears, and screaming, "No evidence!" at mountains of evidence won't make the mountains of evidence cease to exist, emotional child.

First of all, I've never defended Islam.

That's refreshing. So you're just a misinformed idiot, and not a hypocrite as well. Congratulations.

Secondly, you didn't mention Islam in your last comment. You just said my religion of peace, as if I had a religion.

Pardon me. I thought liberals calling the rampaging death cult a religion of peace 24/7 would kind of make it obvious what I was referring to. I'll remember to use crayons when talking to you.

Finally, which Liberals are smearing Christians while defending Muslim extremists? Name some mainstream Liberals who have done this.

Liberals respond to every Islamic terrorist attack by rushing in to warn against "intolerance," and by hilariously calling the death cult a "religion of peace." And they also widely support the persecution of free religious exercise under the guise of protecting the imaginary right of homosexuals to force others to endorse and participate in their lifestyles. Both of those facts are well-documented and common knowledge. Try Google to inform yourself.

Obama EEOC Fights for Religious Liberty -- for Muslim Truckers

[Yurt]

No.

To hard to define the class and measures have already been taken to try and even out the past.

When black and white people can let this shit go, only then can we move on as a nation.

[StoneByStone]

Wrong again. It's not "refusing service" that's the problem. The bakers all admit that they're perfectly willing to make a cake for a homosexual couple, just not willing to violate their religion by catering a homosexual wedding or making a homosexual WEDDING cake. And yes, when Muslims do the same thing, they ARE held to a completely different standard. Atheists aren't violating their religion in the first place, so the comparison you made doesn't even make sense. Not endorsing or participating in your lifestyle in no way violates your rights, entitled ignoramus.

Get a clue



Free speech is valid, even for extremists (especially for extremists). Arbitrarily invented "protected classes" and the discriminatory special treatment they demand are not constitutionally (or morally valid).



Pointing out that your logic is full of inconsistencies is now "throwing a tantrum?" Weak.



Nor will mislabeling people as "throwing a tantrum" for correcting your constitutionally illiterate BS or declaring anyone who rejects your unconstitutional ideas "wrong."



Except for the plethora of evidence already posted showing that they are being fined, bankrupted, jailed, and turned into second-class citizens for being Christian in public, sure.

Closing your eyes, covering your ears, and screaming, "No evidence!" at mountains of evidence won't make the mountains of evidence cease to exist, emotional child.





That's refreshing. So you're just a misinformed idiot, and not a hypocrite as well. Congratulations.



Pardon me. I thought liberals calling the rampaging death cult a religion of peace 24/7 would kind of make it obvious what I was referring to. I'll remember to use crayons when talking to you.



Liberals respond to every Islamic terrorist attack by rushing in to warn against "intolerance," and by hilariously calling the death cult a "religion of peace." And they also widely support the persecution of free religious exercise under the guise of protecting the imaginary right of homosexuals to force others to endorse and participate in their lifestyles. Both of those facts are well-documented and common knowledge. Try Google to inform yourself.

Obama EEOC Fights for Religious Liberty -- for Muslim Truckers

TL ; DR

[artichoke]

TL ; DR

So, no counterpoint. Got it.

[StoneByStone]

So, no counterpoint. Got it.

Try cutting your nonsense in half and I'll take the time to read it and educate you.

[Micawber]

Why help people. I didn't do shit to them. Fuck off. MAGA!

[artichoke]

Try cutting your nonsense in half and I'll take the time to read it and educate you.

Don't tell so many stupid lies and it won't take so much text to correct it all. Your aversion to reading is no one's problem but your own.

[StoneByStone]

Don't tell so many stupid lies and it won't take so much text to correct it all. Your aversion to reading is no one's problem but your own.

Imaginary cuck fears:

-infanticide,
-delusional anti-science gender extremism,
-rigged elections and stacked federal courts,
-censorship & mob violence,
-scaremongering climate demagoguery,
-enabling opioid epidemics, child sex slavery, & border anarchy,
-giving voting rights to terrorists, felons, & illegal immigrants,
-illegal spying, witch hunts, & treason,
-and the persecution and eradication of all things white, male, Christian, & American