As Americans we as a people need to allow some illegal immigration into this country

[moon]

Repetitious trollshit.

[USFREEDOM911]

Repetitious trollshit.

Yes you are.

[PostmodernProphet]

Ok, and they get money how?

what are you fishing for?.......do you think I'm arguing with you or something?.....

[gemini104104]

How's about facilitating a huge bozak up Stephen Miller's hide who is nothing but a piece of sh!t from a human perspective?

[Gonzomin]

the laws were not there then, dumbass. it was the frontier of the world. the new world. now its not. things change.

Actually, there were millions of Native Americans here. The laws in America were theirs and mostly local since there was no national Indigent government. The invaders ignored the laws in America.

[dukkha]

Why do people come here illegally? (or almost half here illegally came legally and overstayed their visas)

1) America is the greatest country on the planet

2) they are avoiding violence where they live

3) economic opportunity


That's why a wall isn't going to stop those who desire to come here from coming. So how do we address the fundamental issues of what drive folks to come here?

For starters we could crack down on businesses and individuals that hire illegals. Huge fines and/or jail terms will definitely get people's attentions. If you do that there's going to be a massive hit to the U.S. economy but take away the job opportunities and coming to America illegally becomes a lot less desirable.

The other option is to fundamentally reform our immigration system. Employers want the cheap labor immigrants can provide and to many immigrants working low wage low skilled jobs in America is better than their present opportunity. There needs to be a way we can match the employment needs with work visas for folks so it can do legally and we have an idea of who is here.

But no one in Congress or this country can rally around a particular idea to force change and thus we continue with the failing status quo.

to the bolded: logical fallacy..
walls stop illegal migrants all over the world ( foot traffic) - they would do the same here between ports of entry. Provided they are designed and maintained well..

Of course de-incentivization like the Flores Settlement would go a long way as well

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Pipe down before I club you harder than a baby seal Canadian.

You ain't getting anywhere near my ass homo

[cawacko]

to the bolded: logical fallacy..
walls stop illegal migrants all over the world ( foot traffic) - they would do the same here between ports of entry. Provided they are designed and maintained well..

Of course de-incentivization like the Flores Settlement would go a long way as well

A wall doesn't address the cause of why people come here. And because we refuse to address the cause, people will still continue to come even if we put up a wall.

[USFREEDOM911]

Actually, there were millions of Native Americans here. The laws in America were theirs and mostly local since there was no national Indigent government. The invaders ignored the laws in America.

Can you list those laws, regarding immigration, that the "Native Americans" had; because I'm pretty sure that it was fairly basic and mostly consisted of "You keep what you take"??

[USFREEDOM911]

A wall doesn't address the cause of why people come here. And because we refuse to address the cause, people will still continue to come even if we put up a wall.

Why is the US responsible for what other countries are doing, regarding their citizens??

The US fought a war to become free and then we fought another war to settle our own differences.

Are the citizens of US special in some way and we're now obligated to solve the problems of other countries?

[moon]

Why is the US responsible for what other countries are doing, regarding their citizens??

The US fought a war to become free and then we fought another war to settle our own differences.

You missed out the bit about slaughtering most of the Native Americans and cheating those who were left.
Fess up- the Pilgrim Fathers were assholes.

[Sailor]

You ain't getting anywhere near my ass homo

Obviously everyone has been there before. You think no one can tell?

[USFREEDOM911]

You missed out the bit about slaughtering most of the Native Americans and cheating those who were left.
Fess up- the Pilgrim Fathers were assholes.

And you missed out how the "Native Americans" were, for the most part, slaughtering each other and as to the "cheating, it appears at that time they found the trade agreeable.

Thanks for bumping the thread, you piece of trollshit.

[moon]

You post like an ignorant trollshitting immigrant. Oh....wait !

Haw, haw....... haw.

[Micawber]

. cheating those who were left.
..

They are getting a little revenge with all their casinos.