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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Somehow, I think the US Military will resolve any problems Trump might have about 'leaving'. I heard Leavenworth is nice.
    I think you're correct, was watching MSNBC a couple weeks ago and caught Lt Col Larry Wilkerson (who admittedly got bamboozled by Powell w/fake Iraq war intel)............they were talking about this very scenario, he said something like "believe me there are people who would stop a coup"............the elite class will not let the political class bankrupt them, no way

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    The new Potus would order the military or cops sergeant at arms to arrest him. Not quite sure who gets to have that much fun.

    I'd pay to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    If any President does not accept defeat at the ballot box they will be forcefully removed from office as they should be. There are no dictators nor royalty in the country though the left likes to keep trying.
    We have a dictator since Jan 2017. It is time-consuming breaking down the walls between branches of government and taking over the FBI and justice department, but he is getting it done,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What if Trump won’t accept 2020 defeat?
    The left never accepted defeat in 2016, but the winner still took office.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What if Trump won’t accept 2020 defeat?
    Trump is not the one to worry about, considering that even if Trump got every last EC vote, the left still would not accept defeat.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I asked this question a couple months ago, & now others are asking



    By NATASHA BERTRAND and DARREN SAMUELSOHN

    06/21/2019 05:01 AM EDT

    n 2016, Donald Trump waffled over whether he would accept the election results if he lost.

    Since then, Trump has repeatedly joked about staying in office beyond the two terms the Constitution allows. Jerry Falwell Jr., Trump’s most prominent evangelical supporter, has suggested Trump should get two years tacked on to his first term as “pay back” for the Mueller investigation. The president’s own former lawyer, Michael Cohen, has warned that “there will never be a peaceful transition of power” should Trump fail in his reelection bid.

    The scenarios all seem far-fetched — “It’s almost a question for science fiction movies,” cracked a former top Secret Service official — but the constant drumbeat nonetheless has people chattering in the halls of Congress and throughout the Beltway: What if Trump won’t accept defeat in 2020?

    And one scenario in particular has Democrats nervous: the lawsuit-happy Trump contests the election results in court.

    “It’s been a worry in the back of my mind for the last couple years now,” said Rep. Brendan Boyle, a Pennsylvania Democrat. California Rep. Ted Lieu, a frequent Trump critic and early impeachment inquiry supporter, acknowledged the same concern but said he trusted law enforcement “would do the right thing” and “install the winner” of the election. Even House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has told her party to prepare for the possibility that Trump contests the 2020 results.

    Constitutional experts and top Republican lawmakers dismiss the fears as nonsense, noting there are too many forces working against a sitting president simply clinging to power — including history, law and political pressure.

    “That is the least concern people should have. Of all the silly things that are being said, that may be the silliest,” said Missouri GOP Sen. Roy Blunt, who presided over the 2016 inauguration ceremony and expects to do so again in 2020. “The one thing we are really good at is the transition of power.”

    Constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley said a lingering incumbent would simply become irrelevant once the new and duly elected president is sworn in. At that point, the defeated president is nothing more than a guest, “if not an interloper,” in the White House, the George Washington University professor noted.

    “The system would make fast work on any president who attempted to deny the results of the election,” he said.

    But a court battle over a presidential election is not unprecedented. And Trump has shown a willingness to tie up his disputes in winding litigation. The Democratic National Committee and Trump’s campaign were in court all the way up to Election Day 2016, fighting over charges of voter intimidation and ballot access.

    “All candidates have a right to contest results in federal court,” Turley said. “It’s not up to the candidate to decide if an election is valid. It’s not based on their satisfaction or consent. They have every right to seek judicial review.”

    Even so, contesting the results of the election in more than one state would be “a massive undertaking,” said Bradley Shrager, a lawyer specializing in election litigation who has worked with several Democratic campaigns. He added that “given the time frames to launch recounts and election contests, you’d have to be preparing months in advance to be able to do that.”

    There are also deadlines for submitting an official electoral vote tally, Shrager said, so a legal battle wouldn’t drag out indefinitely.

    Still, Pelosi’s comments nodded to the Democratic suspicion that Trump will put up a fight. She argued the Democrats’ must win by a margin so “big” that Trump can’t challenge the results.


    The sentiment, Democrats say, is fueled by Trump’s cavalier attitude toward presidential term lengths.

    Trump continues to talk up the prospect that he could serve past the constitutionally mandated period. On Twitter last weekend, Trump pondered, “do you think the people would demand that I stay longer?” The line mirrored language he used at a rally in Pennsylvania last month where he talked about living in the White House for 20 years.

    “We ran one time and we’re 1-and-0. But it was for the big one. Now we’re going to have a second time. And we’re going to have another one. And then we’ll drive them crazy,” Trump said. “And maybe if we really like it a lot — and if things keep going like they’re going — we’ll go and we’ll do what we have to do. We’ll do a three and a four and a five.”

    Trump also promoted Falwell Jr.’s line from May that the president should get two extra years “as pay back for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup”, retweeting the Liberty University president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Sounds like Trump, all over. He will claim the election was rigged. Have no doubt he will file lawsuits up the ying yang. That is what he always does.

    He will have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, from power.

    We're gonna have to impeach him to get rid of him. If not before the election, then after it.

    And then, don't expect him to just go away and lay low like all the other presidents before him.

    Oh no. That's not his way.

    He won't shut up.

    He'll be tweeting his touche off.

    Part of his sentence is going to have to be no tweeting, no public statements.

    It's like he's crying out for prison.

    And after all, he is an everything or nothing kind of guy.

    Already had a billion and a huge yacht and it wasn't enough. Had to roll the dice and risk it all in the casino business, where he promptly lost his ass and went into bankruptcy.

    For what?

    He was ALREADY RICH.

    He's messed up in the head, that one.

    Totally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    We have a dictator since Jan 2017. It is time-consuming breaking down the walls between branches of government and taking over the FBI and justice department, but he is getting it done,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    I remember the libs said W Bush was a dictator who would never give up the Presidency, black helicopters, the whole works.

    Pretty much change the words above to "W" and you go back in time.

    W was one of the most gutless doormat WIMPS to ever grace the Oval office. He let the left and press shit and piss all over him without saying a word!!
    I don't remember bush quite that wimpy...

    Although I do recall during the cindy sheehan campOUT he seemed to be having a pretty rough time..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    If any President does not accept defeat at the ballot box they will be forcefully removed from office as they should be. There are no dictators nor royalty in the country though the left likes to keep trying.
    I think everyone would agree to that, but the problem, IMHO, that I see possibly occurring is denial &/or questioning of the "VALIDITY" of the count..

    Regardless of how any protests or questioning may ultimately turn out/results, the system which we have relied upon since the foundation of the nation would most certainly be damaged.

    I hope that whatever the results are from the election that it is beyond question..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Trump is not the one to worry about, considering that even if Trump got every last EC vote, the left still would not accept defeat.
    I don't care if they or anyone "accepts" the results or anything else, what we all should be concerned w/ is lawful & peaceful transition of power, as is our tradition since our foundation.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post

    W was one of the most gutless doormat WIMPS to ever grace the Oval office. He let the left and press shit and piss all over him without saying a word!!
    And you are basing your comment on what facts? Can you give us an example of what you are talking about.

    Just like every president, the press is going to ask tough questions. Somebody please advise Donald Trump and his ass-kissers that!

    Did anyone else ever witness the left pissing and shitting on Bush but you? No!

    Sorry, but no one believes you! LOL!

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    What if you had an IQ higher than your hat size, Billy?

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    I believe "Life is Golden," one of our moderate, erudite, intelligent and thoughtful posters.

    I believe that her life is truly golden, always upbeat and happy, just like "Getin the Ring."

    The sullen, sulking, stupefyingly stupid (a four word alliteration) far left loons are not to be believed.

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