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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Even though the idea of white slavery has been generally kept hidden at overshadowing that part of history at elaborating on black slavery, which promotes ignorance and a false sense of dominance and superiority among misguided and marginally educated individuals, would the idea of reparations apply to former white slaves too?:

    When Europeans Were Slaves: Research Suggests White Slavery Was Much More Common Than Previously Believed

    In a new book, Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a unique methodology to calculate the number of white Christians who were enslaved along Africaís Barbary Coast, arriving at much higher slave population estimates than any previous studies had found.
    Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didnít try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.
    Davisís new estimates appear in the book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 (Palgrave Macmillan)."

    https://news.osu.edu/when-europeans-...usly-believed/
    When you document a century or two of "white slaves" being captured, put in the bowels of ships, transported to other lands and then sold & bred like cattle, get back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasquezrocks View Post
    Ok ... we will give you reparations .....

    But , we will eliminate your welfare !
    and does that go for single, unwed white female mothers? They're the majority of welfare recipients, ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Saying one needs a roof over their heads doesnít address what we were talking about and that was what minimum wage would be today adjusted for inflation. I did a google search and saw nothing that stated it would be $25 like you claim. If you have data to the contrary Iím open to seeing it.

    Housing is a separate subject. If you want to address that feel free to make the factors you believe have caused the increase in cost
    OK, so housing is a separate thing huh? No, that is what every red-blooded hard-working American is trying to do, is put a roof over their head.

    But, let's talk about healthcare and healthcare insurance.

    You check it out and get back to us- but what was the cost to go to a doctor in 1992 vs. today. Let's talk about the cost of Healthcare insurance then and now!

    Food? How much was a T-bone steak then vs. now.

    Everything- EVERYTHING has tripled and quadrupled since 1992- except one thing- THE MINIMUM WAGE!

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    Sure and here's getting back to you: This Oped News article originally posted in 2008 (first reposted in 2015 on Global Research), skims the surface of a complex historical process which has been the object of critical debate, controversy and confusion. The article also includes a number of factual errors.

    In order to promote further discussion concerning the Irish Slave Trade, Global Research has published two followup articles on the subject, with a view to providing a broader historical background.

    The following article by Robert E. West clarifies the historical context.
    The Irish slaves were sent to British territories in the Caribbean. They were categorized as “indentured” workers and “servants” of the English colonial elites."

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ir...e-slaves/31076

    Yet no need to project, deny or be offended at the reality of it all, especially what went on in the world 100 of years before anyone today were born because it is what it is. It is just good to know someone left verifiable accounts of what went on before future generations were able to rewrite that part of history to please their false sense of superiority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    And pray tell, what was the actual raw number of black slave owners in the nearly 300 years of legal slavery in America? Because if the Native Americans apply your "logic", you're toast.
    The point being, 'Reparations' is a nice bumper sticker type slogan, sounds great, and sounds 'sincere'. But, how do you come up with a solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    you know, only a complete intellectually impotent bigoted bumpkin would make such an asinine opening sentence in lieu of America's, England's, Spain's & Portugal's DOCUMENTED history (documented by their own accord, don't cha know). That pretty much negates anything else you babble.
    I only mentioned that because some of our negro friends seem to be under the impression 'Slavery', was only practiced in America, and only occurred with African negroes.

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    Here is another case for reparations when it comes to the will of the majority voter, Democracy and U.S. Constitutional law being horribly robbed and violated in 2016 in favor of a Putin and antigovernment conspiring GOPer puppet tRump at lawlessly hacking, rigging and destroying the legitimacy of the electoral college in order to create a tRump atrocity on humanity to deal with.

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    Also and not necessarily related to reparations was the peculiar way of kids of color back in the 1970's in my high school days who sat at the back of the bus with their afros bold and proud as they could be, not that they were ordered to do so but for some reason they felt comfortable back there, and even into my working days back in the 1980's. This comes to preferring to sit at the rear of the bus at their own choice and that was in California. There was nothing militant about it but just a way people in those days preferred. Yet over time, diversity and freedom apparently erased the tendencies of those jim crow era days that had a effect on the mindset of kids of color of those days. This is because the former generation of them who literally had to sit in the back of the bus just for being who they were, and jim crow was in Cali to back in the 1950's became a erased norm of society eventually, in to which people by instinct sit where they want on all public sources of transporation, and front of any bus including the Uber type transportation of the 21st century America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Your great grandfather is spinning in his grave at the worthless, brain dead POS bigoted parroting his great grandson does on these threads. 90 years of Jim Crow. 60 years of separate but equal. 35 years of racist housing policy, must've killed his spirit....and then there's the laws that had to be passed to reaffirm my right as a born & bread US citizen to go to any school my parents could afford.

    Reparations as originally conceived wasn't meant for you, bunkyÖ.YOU ARE NOT A DECENDANT OF SLAVES, OR WERE AFFECTED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED. I like the OP idea of an alternative to the original intent, though I highly doubt Congress will pass anything of the sort (to many folks like YOU around).
    I'm a descendant of those who fought to free them. Pay up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    and does that go for single, unwed white female mothers? They're the majority of welfare recipients, ya know.
    And they aren’t asking for reparations .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Name someone pushing 30 bucks an hour? There is nothing for free. Healthcare should be paid for by taxes, the taxes will be less than you pay for health insurance now. About half as much.
    I am and I'm not ashamed to say it.

    NO ONE absolutely NO ONE should be working for the slave wages set for by the racist white man.

    The minimum wages is slave labor but white America is too caught up greed to realize it hurts society as a whole when wages are so low.

    It only benefits the few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The Northerners were fighting to preserve the union. The South was breaking up America. Slavery is one of the reasons, but not the biggest.
    It was the only reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    So you are saying that only some percentage of their blood they lost, or some percentage of their lives they sacrificed was sacrificed for the fight for freedom for all and abolish slavery.

    Please dice it and slice it for us! What percentage of blood? What percentage of lives please?

    Everyone knows that the Confederate states broke from the nation making it a state Vs. Federal issue with regards to ending slavery.

    The South did not want to give up their slaves so they seceded- plain and simple!
    So they enacted the EC, took over government, created prisons, spewed hate about the freed slaves which justified institution racism to keep the slaves in bondage.....which is still happening today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Why does white America have a problem with reparations for Black Americans but not for Italian, Indians or Japanese WHO WERE NOT ENSLAVED, who did not build this country, who enjoys the benefits of slave labor, and received reparations after 100 years?

    I'd like to discuss with a "liberal" leaning white person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    No one I have heard from, so far, has mentioned a mandatory $30 an hour minimum wage.

    It's not so much the cost of healthcare- as it is the cost of healthcare insurance.

    How much did you pay for your brand new automobile in 1992 when it was the last time the Minimum wage was increased?

    Let me help you out! The price of a fully loaded Silverado pickup truck cost $15,000 in 1992.

    The cost of a new fully loaded Chevy Silverado pickup truck today are up over $50 grand. Do the math on inflation.

    The price of a Big Mac in 1994 was 91 cents- today $3.99- yet they pay their employees the very same!

    BUT THE MINIMUM WAGE HAS NOT INCREASED 1 penny since the price of everything has tripled or quadrupled since then.

    THAT is the major problem.
    I stated $25.00 hr...Ö..and I'm not ashamed to say it.

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