A CASE FOR REPARATIONS!

[Adolf_Twitler]

You responded to a post listing demands for reparations (several of which I included in my post) by saying voting is the key and referencing turn out for "your side". So why respond to the list of demands if you weren't referencing them?

Lincoln set it up so that the freed slaves were to get 40 acres and a mule as reparations for their enslavement. But, Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's successor, killed it before it got implemented.

That would have been the thing to do and the time for reparations.

My comment here was not about refuting what reparations anyone has now for the black man.

My point was about the fact that over 2 and 1/2 million soldiers volunteered to join the Union army and over 360 thousand of them died for the cause of freedom for all and to end slavery, and all that spilled blood and effort should be remembered, appreciated, and honored.

That's all I said dude!

[cawacko]

Lincoln set it up so that the freed slaves were to get 40 acres and a mule as reparations for their enslavement. But, Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's successor, killed it before it got implemented.

That would have been the thing to do and the time for reparations.

My comment here was not about refuting what reparations anyone has now for the black man.

My point was about the fact that over 2 and 1/2 million soldiers volunteered to join the Union army and over 360 thousand of them died for the cause of freedom for all and to end slavery, and all that spilled blood and effort should be remembered, appreciated, and honored.

That's all I said dude!

I’m not trying to fight you here. I responded to your post in a thread about reparations in which you stated voter turnout is key and referenced the 2016 turnout. Higher turnout in ‘16 wasn’t necessarily going to get the list of reparations being demanded. Voting is obviously important but unless you are voting for folks running on this reparations platform not a lot is going to change regarding the issues of reparations.

[Mason Michaels]

250 years of slavery. 90 years of Jim Crow. 60 years of separate but equal. 35 years of racist housing policy. Until you all reckon with your compounding moral debts, America will never be whole.

Most Blacks are forgiving people. We aren't looking for a check in the mail...…..that is the racist white man's narrative and excuse not to give reparations.

We will accept reparations in the forms of the following:

Eliminate the for profit prison industrial complex
Eliminate the cash bail system
Eliminate Check the box for housing
Eliminate Redlining in housing
Eliminate Check the box for employment
Eliminate Background checks for employment
Eliminate Bias's in Financial Institutions with low cost, low interest rate loans
Eliminate Voting restriction
Eliminate the Electoral College
Eliminate the Death Penalty
Eliminate Police Unions
Eliminate Racist laws such as sagging pants, loitering, skateboarding etc.
Eliminate Racial segregation laws
Revise and Revamp the ENTIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM hold racist departments, individual kops and the Justice Department accountable.
Revise and Revamp the ENTIRE JUDICIAL SYSTEM Hold racist Judges, DA's, Prosecutors, etc accountable.
Free Healthcare
Free Education
Raise the minimum wage to at lest 25.00 hr.

And if push comes to shove...…..give us our fuckin 40 acres and a mule!

This is for starters...……….I could add to the list.

THIS IS WHAT WE MEAN BY REPERATIONS

I support reparations for any living person that was held in slavery!

[Mason Michaels]

In 1982 the government paid 25K to the families of Italian who were lynched in 1891. You'll pay Italians 100 years later but not decendants of slaves? Japanese interment camp survivors got 25K each. Native Americans got $1.3 Billion after WWII. American got rich off slaves...…...Reparations are due.

Well the North fought and emancipated the slaves,so take your reparations idea,up with the states that fought to hold slaves in bondage

[Mason Michaels]

Fuck no. I was born in America. I won't accept nothing less than what is listed.

Were you a slave?

[Mason Michaels]

I don't hate white people. I hate racist white men and women.

Me too!Can I get reparations?

[Sirthinksalot]

that is taking rights from others

Bahahaha that's the part you find objectionable?!!
You are full on retard!!!

[Adolf_Twitler]

I’m not trying to fight you here. I responded to your post in a thread about reparations in which you stated voter turnout is key and referenced the 2016 turnout. Higher turnout in ‘16 wasn’t necessarily going to get the list of reparations being demanded. Voting is obviously important but unless you are voting for folks running on this reparations platform not a lot is going to change regarding the issues of reparations.

I am not sure how I missed your original point, but yes Reparations would pretty much have to be up on referendum, for people to be able to vote in favor of it- or not.

Let me just say this right up front, I really do not have a hard stand on this one way or the other.

But if forced to make a fast and unwanted choice right now, in this time when I believe we have 1,000 other things we should me more concerned with and focused on, I would probably, in a forced and rush decision to say- thumbs down. And I'll tell you why.

Before I do or don't do anything, or make a choice between two choices, I ask myself a couple of questions...

Can we afford to do it, and can we afford not to do it? And in this case, right off the top of my head I do not believe we could afford such a large pay-out of everyone's tax money, and if we don't do it, I don't see that as something that is going to cause any harm in any way to anyone either.

That is just my feelings about it, and if my measly little opinion hurts anyone's feelings, I'll apologize for it in advance. SORRY!

You just shouldn't have even brought this up at a time when I have 1,000 other priorities.

[USFREEDOM911]

Were you a slave?

According to her, she still is.

[Flash]

"Kavanaugh opinion overturns conviction of black defendant for racial bias in jury selection"

"A black Mississippi inmate faces a possible seventh trial after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 7-2 Friday that a prosecutor had displayed racial bias in jury selection.

Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh wrote the majority opinion finding a violation of Batson v. Kentucky, the 1986 decision barring the exclusion of jurors based on race."

http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...jury-selection

[Flash]

I am not sure how I missed your original point, but yes Reparations would pretty much have to be up on referendum, for people to be able to vote in favor of it- or not.

The U. S. does not have referendum at the federal level.

[cawacko]

I am not sure how I missed your original point, but yes Reparations would pretty much have to be up on referendum, for people to be able to vote in favor of it- or not.

Let me just say this right up front, I really do not have a hard stand on this one way or the other.

But if forced to make a fast and unwanted choice right now, in this time when I believe we have 1,000 other things we should me more concerned with and focused on, I would probably, in a forced and rush decision to say- thumbs down. And I'll tell you why.

Before I do or don't do anything, or make a choice between two choices, I ask myself a couple of questions...

Can we afford to do it, and can we afford not to do it? And in this case, right off the top of my head I do not believe we could afford such a large pay-out of everyone's tax money, and if we don't do it, I don't see that as something that is going to cause any harm in any way to anyone either.

That is just my feelings about it, and if my measly little opinion hurts anyone's feelings, I'll apologize for it in advance. SORRY!

You just shouldn't have even brought this up at a time when I have 1,000 other priorities.

Look at the list of demands being made for reparations. I don’t think you can just make a federal ballot measure saying yes or no to them. (Leaving aside do we even have federal referendums like we do in the states? I can’t recall any)

[Flash]

Look at the list of demands being made for reparations. I don’t think you can just make a federal ballot measure saying yes or no to them. (Leaving aside do we even have federal referendums like we do in the states? I can’t recall any)

And one would require a constitutional amendment.

[ThatOwlWoman]

TTQ, I do agree with some of the things on your extensive list, but not all of them. America needs to make some changes in how we deal with criminals, ppl in poverty, and ppl with mental problems. We need to do much more to raise up minority ppl as far as respect, education, hiring, compensation. That being said, I despise any form of victim mentality. Once that's gotten into you, you're going no where fast. I see that mentality in some of the native ppl I live by, go to school with -- and in women I know who have been in domestic abuse situations. Certainly we all see it in some fragile white males as well. See yourself as a victim and you always will be one. Language is power. Which sounds better to you? "I have cancer" or "I am living with cancer"? "I am a rape victim," or "I am a survivor of rape"? Back in the 60s a lot of us whites saw the Black Power movement as scary, terrifying. Some of us though saw it as empowering.

To me "reparations" sounds like victimhood. I prefer empowerment.

[USFREEDOM911]

TTQ, I do agree with some of the things on your extensive list, but not all of them. America needs to make some changes in how we deal with criminals, ppl in poverty, and ppl with mental problems. We need to do much more to raise up minority ppl as far as respect, education, hiring, compensation. That being said, I despise any form of victim mentality. Once that's gotten into you, you're going no where fast. I see that mentality in some of the native ppl I live by, go to school with -- and in women I know who have been in domestic abuse situations. Certainly we all see it in some fragile white males as well. See yourself as a victim and you always will be one. Language is power. Which sounds better to you? "I have cancer" or "I am living with cancer"? "I am a rape victim," or "I am a survivor of rape"? Back in the 60s a lot of us whites saw the Black Power movement as scary, terrifying. Some of us though saw it as empowering.

To me "reparations" sounds like victimhood. I prefer empowerment.

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