$1B Climate Change Denial Industry: Getting Rich Telling Lies, Destroying Humanity...

[Celticguy]

Hello Celticguy,



Check out my new thread on a big fail of Capitalism, and how Socialism had to come to the rescue.

Insurance companies began pulling out of coastal areas to reduce their exposure to damage from climate change storms. People couldn't even BUY homeowners insurance. Mortgage companies stopped writing loans. It impacted real estate sales. It was bad. Something had to be done.

The answer was government-run property insurance. Two states have it. Guess who controls those States? Republicans!

IS that priceless?

THERE IS YOUR PROOF

What in the world could POSSIBLY cause pro-capitalism REPUBLICAN States to install government-run SOCIALIST INSURANCE???

Climate Change.

That's what.

Thats nice.
Sealevels have been rising at a consistant rate for as long as they have measured it. AT A CONSISTANT RATE. Some costal states got stupid and let people build where they had no business building and then those big sand bars shifted out from under the houses. We vacation in the states you are referring to and have for decades. The missus has a cousin down there as well. I know this story very well.
Now about CO2...
Thats the issue.

[Cypress]

CO2 is incapable of heating the Earth. Heat does not flow from cold to hot; it only flows from hot to cold. See the 2nd law of thermodynamics.


There is no way to accurately measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't have near enough thermometers to even begin such an analysis. See statistical mathematics.

^^^Assertions.
You have already proven you have no qualifications or training in science, that you merely parrot what you read on rightwing blogs, and that you fundamentally do not even understand science:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...53#post2947253

Nothing you claim, assert, and state can be trusted.

[gfm7175]

Im just watching and waiting for proof. Havent seen it yet.

You'll be waiting an awfully long time...

[Celticguy]

Ok Cy, dont trust it at face value, thats sensible.
But try to show how any of it is wrong.
My posit is simple, ill ignore whether its warmer or cooler or even by how much, ill ignore whether CO2 is up or down and by how much. Just demonstrate CO2 producing greenhouse effect. But be aware that the great and powerful Bill Nye the science guy's attempt was shown to be bunk. But Im sure you can find actual scientist who can do better. Or maybe not.

[Celticguy]

You'll be waiting an awfully long time...

It HAS been an awefully long time already.

[PoliTalker]

Thats nice.
Sealevels have been rising at a consistant rate for as long as they have measured it. AT A CONSISTANT RATE. Some costal states got stupid and let people build where they had no business building and then those big sand bars shifted out from under the houses. We vacation in the states you are referring to and have for decades. The missus has a cousin down there as well. I know this story very well.
Now about CO2...
Thats the issue.

Lemme guess. They've been measuring sea level since the industrial age began.

[PoliTalker]

You'll be waiting an awfully long time...

Just proved it.

What else could POSSIBLY make Republican States replace capitalism with socialism and start up government-run property insurance besides something really big?

Something called climate change.

[gfm7175]

Okay, let's examine this "proof"...

It is all around us for those who wish to see it.

"It's 'all around you', but you just need a magickal 'holy eye' in order to see it... You simply lack faith"...
Sounds quite religious (as opposed to scientific) to me...

Reefs dying,

Reefs are doing just fine.

increased storms,

From what time period to what time period? Why is that selected time period 'sanctified' from all other time periods?

ice melting,

Ice tends to do that during the Summer months... It'll freeze up again during the Winter months...

increased fires,

Maybe Kaliphornia ought to actually properly manage their forests then... (I spell Kaliphornia that way because I don't consider them to be part of the Union anymore, since they reject not only the US Constitution, but their own Constitution as well. They are effectively their own Oligarchy at this point)

drought,

See my reply to "increased storms"...

floods,

See my reply to "increased storms"...

sea level rising.

There is no way to accurately measure global sea level... There is no valid reference point with which to do so.

The majority of science telling us it is real.

Actually, Science tells us that AGW is a bunch of hooey. Logic and Mathematics also tell us this.

But you don't have to believe. That is your right. No problem. We don't need you. Cling to what you want to believe.

Yup, I choose to accept logic, science, and mathematics, thanks...

Science also told us man would fly. Lots of skeptics refused to believe that too.

Engineering is what allows us to fly.

The climate change Denial Industry went to school at the Big Tobacco school of propaganda.

No, it didn't. It just understands logic, science, and mathematics.

Very effective. Too bad for humanity. Their efforts are delaying our response. That's gonna make it worse.

This shouldn't even BE political.

No response is necessary; there is no problem being caused by CO2.

[PoliTalker]

Hello gfm,

No response is necessary; there is no problem being caused by CO2.

No, no response is necessary, (humans don't have to endure,) but one is prudent.

[Celticguy]

Lemme guess. They've been measuring sea level since the industrial age began.

Some places long before that.

[Celticguy]

Just proved it.

What else could POSSIBLY make Republican States replace capitalism with socialism and start up government-run property insurance besides something really big?

Something called climate change.

Its federal not state. Vacation homes are naturally down south because nobody retires up north.
But Poli we are talking science here, not political science. Right ?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Celticguy,

Its federal not state. Vacation homes are naturally down south because nobody retires up north.
But Poli we are talking science here, not political science. Right ?

Yeah, I got ya with that one.

Total proof climate change is real and human caused.

Republicans instituted socialism.

Had to be something huge to cause that.

No other explanation.

Climate Change.

[anonymoose]

. Hello anonymoose,



Conservatives don't require proof that they are personally at risk of being attacked by a criminal. They go ahead and buy a gun just in case. The are hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. Because hoping for the best while preparing for the worst, without proof, is wisdom.

I wouldn't know. I'm a (true) liberal. But those that buy guns to protect themselves do so out of their own pocket. They don't force people like me to buy one.

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I was watching a nature show on PBS featuring Sir David Attenborough. He said it is proved. Proof enough for ME!

What study did this Sir guy cite? I'd be interested in reading it. I'm open to learning and could be convinced.

I am guessing conservatives just can't watch nature shows any more. Nearly all of them talk about climate change these days. .

Studies have shown that watching tv literally makes one stupid. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-a6759026.html
I rarely watch tv. When I do it's usually for major sporting events.

[gfm7175]

Hello gfm,



No, no response is necessary, (humans don't have to endure,) but one is prudent.

What's happening? Why is it happening? What theories of science support this reasoning?

[Gonzomin]

Proof? The air in America has been steadily getting cleaner since those horrible tree lovers got clean air bills passed decades ago. Trump is gutting the environmental agencies and now the air quality is dropping. The facts are there. Why rightys like pollution, I will never know.