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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    Scientists know better than to claim proof of something which is not proven in the literal scientific sense, which is different than the common sense.

    Both evolution and AGW are essentially proven.
    Nope, they are both religions. They are not falsifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    The main problem is that these people think that they know about what they actually know nothing about... They think they can accurately measure global CO2 content, but they actually can't, since there aren't near enough uniformly spaced and simultaneously read CO2 stations in existence.

    They think they can measure global sea level, but they actually can't, as there is no valid reference point to make use of.

    They think they can accurately measure global temperature, but they actually can't, since there aren't near enough uniformly spaced and simultaneously read thermometers in existence.

    They think they can instead get these temperature readings via satellite, but they can't, since they have no clue what the emissivity of Earth is, and to know emissivity, they first need to know temperature.


    Their claims about CO2 (and its magick) regularly reject the laws of thermodynamics as well as the stefan boltzmann law, thus rejecting science.


    Until they can get past those hurdles (for starters), they are simply talking out of their asses...
    The deniers will just move the goalposts. They don't want to accept reality, don't want to change, so they simply deny. They know nothing will happen to them in the immediate sense. Sort of like instant gratification.

    'I don't like the message! Make it go away!'

    News flash.

    It's not GOING away.

    Get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Can you kindly present this "proof" that AGW is happening??
    It is all around us for those who wish to see it. Reefs dying, increased storms, ice melting, increased fires, drought, floods, sea level rising. The majority of science telling us it is real.

    But you don't have to believe. That is your right. No problem. We don't need you. Cling to what you want to believe.

    Science also told us man would fly. Lots of skeptics refused to believe that too.

    The climate change Denial Industry went to school at the Big Tobacco school of propaganda.

    Very effective. Too bad for humanity. Their efforts are delaying our response. That's gonna make it worse.

    This shouldn't even BE political.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    The laws of thermodynamics have been around for quite a while now too, ya know... Why are you rejecting them by claiming that CO2 (a colder object) can heat Earth (a warmer object)?
    Mathematics has something called an obtuse angle. It's really stretched.

    That's what your argument has become.

    Obtuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    $100 BILLION+ AGW CLIMATE LIES INDUSTRY.
    It is you and others like you who are the weakest links of humanity. Whether or not you say this crap out of sheer stupidly or your somehow being compensated for it makes no difference as either case is equally disgusting and despicable.

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    Hello and happy first day of summer Cypress,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It just means you are uninformed and should not be participating in this conversation, if it is news to you that science has experimentally shown and unequivocally proven that CO2 has greenhouse gas properties. This was proven about a century ago.


    Its not my job to teach and educate you about widely known and understood scientific principles of earth science and atmospheric science. Especially principles that have been known about for about a century.
    No, but it is the calling of the good people of the Earth to care for the planet and try to leave it better than we found it. A lot of good people before us had good lives and left us enough planet to do the same. It's only natural to want to pass that on.
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    Today is the first day of summer.

    It's the summer solstice, the longest day of the year.

    That was always confusing to me. Seems like the longest day of the year would occur in the MIDDLE of summer. Why does most of the heat FOLLOW the longest day of the year? Why doesn't the heat build up in direct proportion to the lengthening of the days, and then become reduced as the days begin to get shorter? That would be logical.

    It's because heat takes time to flow. It doesn't happen in the snap of a finger.

    Lots of heat takes lots of time to flow.

    That's why when you put a turkey in the oven it takes a long time to cook all the way inside. You can't tell from the outside, so we use a cooking thermometer to know. It might be really hot on the outside, but the inside is still cold and uncooked. The heat has to work it's way in.

    When the Earth is exposed to additional heating because CO2 traps the radiation from escaping the atmosphere, it takes a long time to heat up the Earth and the seas. Takes a long time to to work it's way in.

    That's a big problem for climate change.

    It's a delayed reaction. The industrial age has been around for a long time, but we are just now beginning to realize the reaction to that action. And even if we stop pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere, the heat is still with us because of the delayed reaction. The best thing we could do would actually be to not only stop emitting CO2, but to actually begin sucking it OUT of the atmosphere.

    Even though the worst effects of climate change have yet to begin, if we want to reduce the effect, we have to at least begin reducing our CO2 output pronto. Like, yesterday, would be good. The sooner we do it, the more reduction of the effect.

    This makes it easy for the propaganda to say it's not happening so why worry.

    Stupid, yes, but that's what they've got.

    Just as stupid as all the people who refused to believe that smoking causes cancer.

    -laughing-

    Makes me recall how when science was new, and tried to explain the concept of a gaseous substance, people had a hard time believing in something they could neither see nor feel. But it was just as real as climate change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It is you and others like you who are the weakest links of humanity. Whether or not you say this crap out of sheer stupidly or your somehow being compensated for it makes no difference as either case is equally disgusting and despicable.
    Yeah..sure we are.

    Hilarious coming from a DUPE of data-altering, , outright LYING, wrong about EVERYTHING, UN CO2 Income Redistribution Scam.












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    Hello and happy first day of summer Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    I get that you have never looked into it and are willing to accept the debunked "97%" gang with eyes closed.
    But if you ever do you will find that only theory and models support this.
    There is one greenhouse gas capable of producing the greenhouse effect. Trouble is its not CO2.
    You got the denial thing going on.
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    Hello and happy first day of summer Gonzomin,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    After decades of cleaner and cleaner air, due to environmental regulations, it is reversing. https://www.apnews.com/d3515b79af1246d08f7978f026c9092b This is what the rightys must want.
    And the left says Trump has not accomplished anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello and happy first day of summer Gonzomin,



    And the left says Trump has not accomplished anything.
    His dumbed-down fans are the ones that would actually enroll in Trump University at its grand reopening...credit cards in hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    The main problem is that these people think that they know about what they actually know nothing about... They think they can accurately measure global CO2 content, but they actually can't, since there aren't near enough uniformly spaced and simultaneously read CO2 stations in existence.

    They think they can measure global sea level, but they actually can't, as there is no valid reference point to make use of.

    They think they can accurately measure global temperature, but they actually can't, since there aren't near enough uniformly spaced and simultaneously read thermometers in existence.

    They think they can instead get these temperature readings via satellite, but they can't, since they have no clue what the emissivity of Earth is, and to know emissivity, they first need to know temperature.


    Their claims about CO2 (and its magick) regularly reject the laws of thermodynamics as well as the stefan boltzmann law, thus rejecting science.


    Until they can get past those hurdles (for starters), they are simply talking out of their asses...
    Excellent summation. Bravo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello and happy first day of summer Celticguy,



    You got the denial thing going on.
    Im just watching and waiting for proof. Havent seen it yet.
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    Hello and happy first day of summer Cinnabar,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    His dumbed-down fans are then ones that would actually enroll in Trump University at its grand reopening...credit cards in hand.
    He should SO do that.

    Such stupidity!

    -laughing-

    Remember when somebody snuck into a Trump rally and passed out red white and blue flags with Trump's name on them? And everybody started happily waving them? Until it was realized that they were Russian flags...

    Priceless.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Im just watching and waiting for proof. Havent seen it yet.
    Check out my new thread on a big fail of Capitalism, and how Socialism had to come to the rescue.

    Insurance companies began pulling out of coastal areas to reduce their exposure to damage from climate change storms. People couldn't even BUY homeowners insurance. Mortgage companies stopped writing loans. It impacted real estate sales. It was bad. Something had to be done.

    The answer was government-run property insurance. Two states have it. Guess who controls those States? Republicans!

    IS that priceless?

    THERE IS YOUR PROOF

    What in the world could POSSIBLY cause pro-capitalism REPUBLICAN States to install government-run SOCIALIST INSURANCE???

    Climate Change.


    That's what.
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