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cancel2 2022 (06-19-2019)
The landmark Endangered Species Act is under relentless assault by Republicans.
The Trump family believes in murdering elephants and leopards.
Anyone attempting to make the claim that Republicans are better for wildlife conservation are the exact same people that attempted to claim Donald Trump was the flower-child peacenik candidate in the face of war-monger Clinton -- aka, such claims can only be made by the utterly deluded or the profoundly dishonest.
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Sailor (06-18-2019)
I know, right? Anyone who thinks that all "sportsmen" can be trusted to follow the game regulations has never watched one of those game warden shows on cable. You know for every person they bust taking game or fish illegally, there are several more who got away with it. The majority are honest. As always, it's the assholes who ruin it for everyone.
Maybe this proposal might turn out to be okay. I want to see the actual thing and what changes, and which refuges as well, before making up my mind.
Cypress (06-18-2019)
Absolutely nothing. Cypress is just a b*tch. This board is over 95% name calling and trolling (which obviously I just did as well). You know the one person who doesn't engage in either? Leaningright.
And to your point LR specifically said he supports this legislation because he likes to hunt and fish. It's an issue he's passionate about. If someone wants to disagree with the legislation that is 100% alright. But Cypress is choosing to attack him personally and we know why.
Last edited by cawacko; 06-18-2019 at 06:55 PM.
cancel2 2022 (06-19-2019), Sailor (06-19-2019)
The Devil is always in the fine print.
Anyone can propose a law that sounds good from the title - "No Child Left Behind".
I actually think game hunting is a valuable asset to wildlife management. I would rather have duck habitat preserved for hunting, than residential developments and parking lots being paved over our wetlands.
The downside is that game management is not neccessarily the same as wildlife management. I really do not think hunters had a lot to do with preserving the North American wolf, the bison, the spotted owl, or the California condor. Ducks, geese, and pheasant are not apex predator species. And it is the apex predators that really are a barometer of the health of an ecosystem.
I have no problem with game management and hunting. But I believe that is only a partial solution to maintaining and preserving ecosystems and sensitive wildlife.
I am a fisherperson; my late husband was as well as being a hunter. Over the years I've seen all kinds of abuses. And because ppl talk, heard of many more. Maybe you should come out of your cardboard box and get out in the woods. Oh yeah. You can't. Bears will eat you.
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cancel2 2022 (06-19-2019)
One problem with hunters is that they want to manage an ecosystem for their benefit, not necessarily that of the creatures who live there. That usually means getting rid of the apex predators who they believe compete for the same game. The result is an imbalanced system that in many cases requires hunting in order to keep populations healthy and in check. Have you read about the changes in Yellowstone following the reintroduction of wolves to the ecosystem there? It's incredible.
https://earthjustice.org/blog/2015-j...-national-park
I agree with you.... Ducks Unlimited is one hunting group that has done amazing things for our wetlands preservation. There are plenty of others as well.
Cypress (06-18-2019), domer76 (06-18-2019), Guno צְבִי (06-18-2019)
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