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Thread: The Mueller Report and the Barr Bottomline Summary clear the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    You cannot read, case closed, Mueller did not say that about either one, He said he was under the justice departments rules that a sitting president cannot be indicted. That is why he did not nail him for the obstruction cases that he laid out clearly. The job was going to Congress, which he saw as a proper procedure.
    Collusion is not a crime. All the leftys and neutrals are able to understand that. But conspiracy is .
    the first part of the report shows the huge scale operation that Russia was running to benefit Daffy. It was, and is, insidious and huge.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

    Barr: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Observant. I dont require talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yet, all your posts rely on some hackneyed talking point one way or another.

    So are you lazy, a poseur, or both?

    You're "observant", yet cannot seem to recall Barr lying to the Senate, or why?

    Doesn't seem like you're very observant.
    We know that you aren't. You cant even comprehend the OBVIOUS. No conspiracy. No Obstruction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The coercion was the President ordering his attorney to lie to Congress about another act of obstruction that the President also ordered.

    So your defense of Trump ordering obstruction is that...it wasn't an actual order?
    OMG
    you are NOT in this thread still clamoring on about obstruction,
    how much stupid can one person fit in his head

    hey clown boy, go play in another thread, embarrassing yourself here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    you are NOT in this thread still clamoring on about obstruction
    You have yet to successfully defend Trump from the obstruction Mueller lays out in his report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    how much stupid can one person fit in his head
    You're so fucking stupid, you got conned by Donald Trump.


    hey clown boy, go play in another thread, embarrassing yourself here
    If you wanted to prove to everyone that I'm not totally and completely under your skin, impotent posts like these aren't the way to do it.
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    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

    Barr: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

    Case closed per McConnell...the only one that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Ultimately, the investigation did...establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.
    This is an example of why context matters, and why you deliberately remove it.
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    I chose to believe Barr and Mueller:

    “Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

    Barr: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

    Since the decision-maker is McConnell and he says, “Case closed...”

    The case is closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Spot on, TD.

    Case closed...”McConnell.
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    I chose to believe Barr and Mueller:

    “Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

    Barr: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

    Since the decision-maker is McConnell and he says, “Case closed...”

    The case is closed.
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    OMG
    you are NOT in this thread still clamoring on about obstruction,
    how much stupid can one person fit in his head

    hey clown boy, go play in another thread, embarrassing yourself here
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    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    If I order you to kill my wife, I'm committing conspiracy to commit Murder.
    no. there has to be more then an order. There has to be coercive pressure to do so or
    a conspiracy to do so.
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    "I want you to kill my wife" = no crime

    I want you to kill my wife or i'll fire you" = coercive pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    no. there has to be more then an order.
    No there doesn't.

    There has to be coercive pressure to do so ora conspiracy to do so.
    The office of the Presidency is coercive pressure.

    And the Conspiracy was to end Mueller's investigation; to enact that conspiracy, Trump ordered McGahn to fire Mueller.

    So that's conspiracy.


    "I want you to kill my wife" = no crime
    Try saying that to an undercover FBI agent or cop and see what they do.


    I want you to kill my wife or i'll fire you" = coercive pressure
    "I am the President" = also coercive pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    You have yet to successfully defend Trump from the obstruction Mueller lays out in his report.
    Wrong again dumbass; Mueller did that:

    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.
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