Why Do Conservatives Hate Immigrants So Much?

[StoneByStone]

Hello StoneByStone,



There are lots of radical views in America. They are the outliers. They never take hold because they are radical, not popular. America is largely Christian. Christians are taught to love their neighbors. That's the norm. Respect and consideration for others. Trump appeals to the worst in people, not the best. It has often been commented on that the evangelicals are being hypocritical to support him because that is not the norm. And indeed, Trump's base is a minority of Americans. He never got over 50% popularity at RealClearPolitics average of all polls. Not once has he enjoyed popular support for his hateful approach to immigration and racial issues.

I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist and I don't like Trump. Lots of Ethnic Nationalists don't support Trump because he's so stupid and is a tool of Zionism and big business.
Now if he wasn't an unhinged low IQ tool of the establishment, his support among Whites would be a lot higher.

On this day, June 19th, the day slavery ended, as we still battle against racial stereotypes. Much progress has been made. Blacks can own property, vote, marry other races, attend public schools. But we still have so far to go in changing attitudes. Love is the answer.

No matter what we do, no matter how much time passes, multiracialism will always have the same disastrous results.
And by the way, things may be getting better for Blacks, but they're getting worse for Whites. Suicide rates and alcoholism have been steadily increasing among Whites for years. Forced racial integration means white communities are dying. Multiracialism causes lower social trust, which leads to alienation for lots of people.
The Left has no sympathy for us because we're white, the Right has no sympathy for us because we're working-class. Is it any wonder why so many in the white working-class are turning to a buffoon like Trump?

That's why I like Marianne Williamson for President. She is the candidate of love. She says Trump got elected by exploiting hatred; and the only way to fight hate is with love. Great message!

The fact that I don't know who this is shows that we have way too many people running for president.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

I don't think we should. I think we should just limit immigration to Whites only and allow Whites to have freedom of association. Another option, which would be even better, is to create a white ethnostate out of a region in North-West America.

I don't think I'll ever understand why you think that is a good idea. There are 100% white towns in America, but it is against the constitution to prevent blacks from moving there. Not that many have even wanted to. We really need to be looking at race as nothing more than an interesting hold-over from the era when technology made mass transportation largely inaccessible. That era has passed, and humans are mixing more. Why can't you simply accept that? I don't get it.

[PoliTalker]

And if Obama left the church before this became a scandal, I would say it's likely that he renounced Black Liberation Theology. But he only left the church when it became a PR problem.

You know I actually think that is the case. He did leave that church before it became an issue. But it is only an issue for a very limited segment of our populace. Most people don't care what his background is. Most people are a mix of different heritages anyway.

[Celticguy]

But Saudi Arabia isn't taking in thousands of white Muslims. They're taking in Muslims who are Arabic. They understand that when integration is concerned, genetics matter more than religion.

How many white muslims seek to immigrate there ?

[Celticguy]

Hello Celticguy,



That is in the Quran. But not all Muslims do everything according to the Quran, just as not all Christians do everything according to the Bible. A free nation allows people the flexibility to choose their own religion and how religious they wish to be. That's part of the beauty of America.

Yes, people are individuals and will always be so.

[StoneByStone]

How many white muslims seek to immigrate there ?

I don't know, as I haven't found those numbers. Maybe it's extremely few, since the home of white Muslims, Albania, is a way better country than Saudi Arabia. But there are plenty of black Muslims that would probably like living in Saudi Arabia, since it would be a step up from Africa. However, Saudi Arabia isn't taking in immigrants from those countries either.

Throughout history, race has always been more important than religion. Just look at how different Christianity is depending on the race of the community of Christians.

[StoneByStone]

Hello StoneByStone,



I don't think I'll ever understand why you think that is a good idea. There are 100% white towns in America, but it is against the constitution to prevent blacks from moving there. Not that many have even wanted to. We really need to be looking at race as nothing more than an interesting hold-over from the era when technology made mass transportation largely inaccessible. That era has passed, and humans are mixing more. Why can't you simply accept that? I don't get it.

I don't care about muh constitution. I want laws based on logic. And allowing people freedom of association is logical, it should be a basic human right.

I accept it, but I don't see it as a good thing. Like I explained before, multiracialism lowers social trust and causes unnecessary problems, and our current state of multiracialism in America is making things worse for white people. We're heading towards being South Africa.
It's also worth mentioning that the most racist countries in the world are in Latin America. These are also the countries with the most amount of racially mixed people. Mixing does not create group cohesion. It doesn't matter that Mestizos and Mulattos are both mixed, they still fight over territory and representation.

[StoneByStone]

You know I actually think that is the case. He did leave that church before it became an issue. But it is only an issue for a very limited segment of our populace. Most people don't care what his background is. Most people are a mix of different heritages anyway.

He didn't. He left after that footage of Reverend Wright went viral.

Most people don't care about him believing in BLT because black people are allowed to be racial. If it was a white politician who went to a Christian Identity church, their career would be over. This just shows how anti-white America is becoming.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist and I don't like Trump. Lots of Ethnic Nationalists don't support Trump because he's so stupid and is a tool of Zionism and big business.
Now if he wasn't an unhinged low IQ tool of the establishment, his support among Whites would be a lot higher.

No, it wouldn't, because there just are not really that many like-minded people to yourself, nationally, in great enough proportions to skew that metric. Trump has already gathered all the nationalist vote he is going to get, and that segment is not growing any more.

No matter what we do, no matter how much time passes, multiracialism will always have the same disastrous results.

Doubtful.

And by the way, things may be getting better for Blacks, but they're getting worse for Whites. Suicide rates and alcoholism have been steadily increasing among Whites for years.

Only white males, and that is explained easily by the rise of women and men becoming displaced as the family bread winner.

Forced racial integration means white communities are dying.

Nobody is forcing anything. All which has happened is the barriers to it have been removed.

Multiracialism causes lower social trust, which leads to alienation for lots of people.

Only those limited numbers who share your view.

The Left has no sympathy for us because we're white, the Right has no sympathy for us because we're working-class. Is it any wonder why so many in the white working-class are turning to a buffoon like Trump?

Not really, considering the intensity and sophistication of the propaganda used. Also, the guy was extremely popular on TV. More so than Reagan. He was, like, Kardashian popular.

The fact that I don't know who this is shows that we have way too many people running for president.

You needn't worry about Democratic Presidential Candidate Marianne Williamson. Not many people are listening to her and the field will be thinned.

[StoneByStone]

Hello StoneByStone,



No, it wouldn't, because there just are not really that many like-minded people to yourself, nationally, in great enough proportions to skew that metric. Trump has already gathered all the nationalist vote he is going to get, and that segment is not growing any more.

Actually, Nationalism among Whites is growing in both America and Europe. The more the establishment forces people to accept multiracialism, the more they fight back.

Only white males, and that is explained easily by the rise of women and men becoming displaced as the family bread winner.

If that was the case, it would be happening for other races too.
But no, it's not just white males, it's happening for white females too. Trump won because he was also able to get the white woman vote.

Nobody is forcing anything. All which has happened is the barriers to it have been removed.

So why is it illegal to have a company that only hires Whites, an apartment building that only rents to Whites, schools that only allow white students, and so on?
We are forced by the government to associate with non-white people. That means we don't have freedom of association.
The fact that they can't just remove the barriers and let it be, shows that multiracialism isn't natural.

Only those limited numbers who share your view.

According to the studies on the subject, this is the norm for most people. Even Globalists who don't believe in racial separation still prefer to be around their own kind.

Not really, considering the intensity and sophistication of the propaganda used. Also, the guy was extremely popular on TV. More so than Reagan. He was, like, Kardashian popular.

Yeah, but how many people would actually vote for a Kardashian for president? The reason Trump got the following he did is because he promised a wall.

[Minister of Truth]

Hello Howard the Duck,



Any chance you would like to ask a non loaded question that doesn't make any false assumptions or stereotypes?

You first.

[Celticguy]

I don't know, as I haven't found those numbers. Maybe it's extremely few, since the home of white Muslims, Albania, is a way better country than Saudi Arabia. But there are plenty of black Muslims that would probably like living in Saudi Arabia, since it would be a step up from Africa. However, Saudi Arabia isn't taking in immigrants from those countries either.

Throughout history, race has always been more important than religion. Just look at how different Christianity is depending on the race of the community of Christians.

No question racism exists in the world and impacts things.
Some asians shun other races because they are textbook racists.

[StoneByStone]

No question racism exists in the world and impacts things.
Some asians shun other races because they are textbook racists.

You can call it racism, but I just see it as human tribalism. Tribes stick together. We can complain about it, or we can accept it, and make laws and policy based on it.

[Celticguy]

You can call it racism, but I just see it as human tribalism. Tribes stick together. We can complain about it, or we can accept it, and make laws and policy based on it.

Culture / tribalism essentially the same thing.
Kaws and policy are nice but will not bring about the synergy of the melting pot. If the various tribes fail to see that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts well you never get that whole.
Melting does not mean losing anything important to you but for some they just wont see it that way. And if the dogma reinforces it, so much the harder.

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

I don't care about muh constitution. I want laws based on logic. And allowing people freedom of association is logical, it should be a basic human right.

I accept it, but I don't see it as a good thing. Like I explained before, multiracialism lowers social trust and causes unnecessary problems, and our current state of multiracialism in America is making things worse for white people. We're heading towards being South Africa.
It's also worth mentioning that the most racist countries in the world are in Latin America. These are also the countries with the most amount of racially mixed people. Mixing does not create group cohesion. It doesn't matter that Mestizos and Mulattos are both mixed, they still fight over territory and representation.

Maybe it is the work of tin pot demagogues.