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    Default Plugs LIED to you - “We didn’t lock people up in cages, we didn’t separate families.”

    "10:13 p.m. ET, September 12, 2019

    In a discussion of immigration policy, former Vice President Joe Biden said: “We didn’t lock people up in cages, we didn’t separate families.”

    Facts first: Both of Biden’s claims are false. While the Obama administration didn’t systematically separate families, it did happen under certain circumstances.

    Separations did sometimes occur under Obama, but they were non-routine and much less frequent, according to immigration experts and former Obama officials.

    They occurred in exceptional cases. Examples include those where the parent was being criminally prosecuted for carrying drugs across the border or other serious crimes aside from illegal crossing, those where human trafficking was suspected and those where the authorities could not confirm the connection between the child and the adult.

    The separations didn’t happen as a result of a blanket policy, however, as was the case during the Trump administration’s controversial “zero tolerance” policy last year.

    Similarly, fenced enclosures at processing facilities along the border, the structures that have been labeled as cages, existed under the Obama administration. Some individuals — including children — were held in those cells during processing."

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...9eb2dc6240c08c
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    "As a presidential candidate in 2008, you supported the border while saying, 'Unlike most Democrats, I voted for 700 miles of fence.' This is what you said," Ramos, one of the debate's four moderators, directed at Biden. "Then, you served as vice president in an administration that deported 3 million people — the most ever in U.S. history. Did you do anything to prevent those deportations?"

    Ramos continued, claiming Biden has been asked this question before but "refused to answer."

    "So let me try once again. Are you prepared tonight to say tonight that you and President Obama made a mistake about deportations?" Ramos asked. "Why should Latinos trust you?"

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    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    During Obama, the kids came alone. The families were pre-separated. Trump was presented with families that he happily split up.

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    "the Obama administration didn’t systematically separate families, it did happen under certain circumstances.

    Separations did sometimes occur under Obama, but they were non-routine and much less frequent..."

    Thank you for posting this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    During Obama, the kids came alone. The families were pre-separated. Trump was presented with families that he happily split up.
    And Trump likes to advertise his mistreatment for the deterrence value. As with all things Trump, reprehensible.
    Works twice, for his rubes, immigrant abuse is a feel good story, for threatened asylum seekers, a negative Yelp review writ large about America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    "As a presidential candidate in 2008, you supported the border while saying, 'Unlike most Democrats, I voted for 700 miles of fence.' This is what you said," Ramos, one of the debate's four moderators, directed at Biden. "Then, you served as vice president in an administration that deported 3 million people — the most ever in U.S. history. Did you do anything to prevent those deportations?"

    Ramos continued, claiming Biden has been asked this question before but "refused to answer."

    "So let me try once again. Are you prepared tonight to say tonight that you and President Obama made a mistake about deportations?" Ramos asked. "Why should Latinos trust you?"

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...st-him-1239402
    REMEMBER THE ASSHOLE RAN ON and SCREAMED at every STOP--HE was going to build a BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL and MEXICO WOULD PAY FOR IT! (And, the double digit IQ'rs lapped it up like his porn stars and Playmates lapped up....)

    You have no wall, NO ADDITIONAL
    FENCE, have paid for millions in prototypes and REPAIRS to fence that ALREADY EXIST under BUSH, PLUGS and the black one. None of it is beautiful and you are paying for all of it!

    Your memory is shorter than your DICK. Idiot!


    Washington Times
    Border wall prototypes torn down to make way for existing type of fencing


    CBP says $20 million project produced lessons learned, but no new design
    Last edited by Centerleftfl; 09-15-2019 at 10:39 AM.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    "the Obama administration didn’t systematically separate families, it did happen under certain circumstances.

    Separations did sometimes occur under Obama, but they were non-routine and much less frequent..."

    Thank you for posting this...
    Of course you would defend those actions when Obama did it. You're a partisan hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    During Obama, the kids came alone. The families were pre-separated. Trump was presented with families that he happily split up.
    Your own CNN masters say, like Plugs, ... YOU are a liar.

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Every smart person knows CNN is fake news, why should anyone believe what they say??


    Trump calls CNN 'fake news,' as channel defends its reporting on intelligence briefing




    Back in the day even the cool ppl where fine w/ deporting ppl here illegally......

    He didn't answer about Obama deporting 3 million illegals either, which dems were also cool w/ @ the time. Was expedient politically especially given all the advocacy for illegals during these debates..

    Only topic Ramos talks about & the reason he was there, to bring illegals again, steering the base it seems to me... They need steering given this history..

    Not all Dems are on board & that was clear when Bill Mahers audience laughed 1:15 in
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Every smart person knows CNN is fake news, why should anyone believe what they say??


    Trump calls CNN 'fake news,' as channel defends its reporting on intelligence briefing




    Back in the day even the cool ppl where fine w/ deporting ppl here illegally......

    He didn't answer about Obama deporting 3 million illegals either, which dems were also cool w/ @ the time. Was expedient politically especially given all the advocacy for illegals during these debates..

    Only topic Ramos talks about & the reason he was there, to bring illegals again, steering the base it seems to me... They need steering given this history..

    Not all Dems are on board & that was clear when Bill Mahers audience laughed 1:15
    I heard a little titter, ... but not applause.

    All the democrat candidates do seem to be competing to see who can represent illegals the best, ... not Americans.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I heard a little titter, ... but not applause.

    All the democrat candidates do seem to be competing to see who can represent illegals the best, ... not Americans.
    Yes, it wasn't busting the walls, but even a lil is a big sign IMHO because that certainly isn't PC in that audience usually..

    Personally I know zero dems that see this as their big issue or even much care about all the dreams & tears put on TV...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yes, it wasn't busting the walls, but even a lil is a big sign IMHO because that certainly isn't PC in that audience usually..

    Personally I know zero dems that see this as their big issue or even much care about all the dreams & tears put on TV...
    What is the one Big Issue for the dems you know, Bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    What is the one Big Issue for the dems you know, Bill?
    HC seems to be the overwhelming concern.. What do you hear from folks you know??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    During Obama, the kids came alone. The families were pre-separated. Trump was presented with families that he happily split up.
    You insufferable dumbass; they don't know if these are families. They aren't coming here with passports and legal documents. Separations occur to PROTECT the children from child smugglers.

    I wish you morons on the left had an IQ above 50.

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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    And Trump likes to advertise his mistreatment for the deterrence value. As with all things Trump, reprehensible.
    Works twice, for his rubes, immigrant abuse is a feel good story, for threatened asylum seekers, a negative Yelp review writ large about America.
    No one is being mistreated you lying piece of human garbage.
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