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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    Changing the subject matter here. Nice try. Do you honestly think 20 candidates should be on the debate stage, when most of them cannot even muster 1%? That's my impression/point here. You seem to be incapable of explaining why we should be allowing candidates registering under 1% should be allowed on a debate stage.
    Leaving aside the fact I don’t really care how the parties run their primaries most people don’t pay a whole lot of attention to presidential candidates a year and a half ahead of an election. So the fact that someone polls low today means little to me. If after a few debates a candidate doesn’t gain traction and get booted to the “B team” debate stage or even off the stage period I have no issue.

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    A Clown Car of yahoos desperately trying to get to the left of Che Guevara.

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    Hoping its staged in an Octogon. That would be great entertainment.
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    Seriously folks, people have spent some REAL TIME, real design, and real bucks or pounds or francs or pesos or....on these. I had NO idea. We all saw the baby balloon in London, that is AMATEURISH. Look at some of these. Many seem to come from CARNIVALE in Nice. Others from Germany. Look at the SIZE of some of these.




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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    Let me first off say, this is my first post. I just joined yesterday. I hope to engage in thoughtful debate. Politically I am a moderate Republican (lean left on social issues, lean right on economic issues), and tend to play devil's advocate in my posts. With that said, lets get onto my topic.

    June 26th (1st night) - Booker, Castro, de Blasio, Delaney, Gabbard, Inslee, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Ryan and Warren.

    June 27th (2nd night) - Bennet, Biden, Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Sanders, Swalwell, Williamson and Yang.

    My impressions

    I perfectly understand that the DNC wants to see wide exposure and allow the lesser known folks the opportunity to get their name out there. But on the other hand, 12/20 candidates invited to the debate stage have less than 1% polling averages in the national polls.

    The June 27th debate seems to be the more relevant one. You have Biden, Buttigieg, Harris, and Sanders on the same stage. Warren is basically up against candidates registering below 5% in the polls.

    Would I have done with format? Absolutely not. I would have had the DNC conduct polls in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina at the beginning of June, and then average them all together. If you average at least 1% in those polls, you get invited to the debate. I don't mind splitting them apart at random, if more than 10 candidates qualify. I just think that 20 is excessive.
    So, you're a moderate Republican? Well, that means the radicalized right wing extremists will label you a far left liberal.

    Do you sometimes vote Democratic? If I may ask, who was the last democratic president you voted for?

    BTW, if you're not always all in on everything Trump does, you will be mocked, scorned, disparaged and discredited by the radicalized right wing extremists on this forum. Just a warning.

    So, regarding the democratic debates: These debates are nothing but a platform for the candidates to give their pre-rehearsed speeches. None of their handlers/advisors want them to go into these debates unless they have pre-written responses. They won't answer the questions although they've been trained to say "That's a great question and I'll answer it by saying this" and then they'll go on to recite their pre-rehearsed speeches.

    Seems like Medicare for all, tax the rich, free tuition, forgiving student debt and reparations are the big topics for the dems. If any democratic candidate embraces any one of these issues, they will absolutely not get my vote. I hate Trump with every fiber of my being but I will NOT vote for a socialist. My vote will go to one of the independent candidates. This shows how utterly stupid the dems are. If they turn off some voters by not embracing the above issues, these voters are not going to turn around and vote for Trump but they will cause many moderates and independents (like me) to not vote democratic if they DO embrace them.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    A Clown Car of yahoos desperately trying to get to the left of Che Guevara.

    Demanding socialism while IGNORING VENEZUELA ( etal);

    Decrying "foreign interference" while IGNORING Hillary and the Dossier, and the Obama STAND DOWN ORDER;

    Demanding "income equality" while IGNORING the fact that it EXPLODED UNDER OBAMA, and has shrunk considerably under Trump, as the working and middle classes are EARNING MORE MONEY, and KEEPING MORE OF WHAT THEY EARN, as well as the DEVASTATING EFFECT that $15 p/h minimum wage has had on the exact people it was supposed to "help".

    Decrying Pres.Trump's STRONG FOREIGN POLICY STANCE, while IGNORING the Obamidiot's STUNNING BLUNDERS in the MIDDLE EAST, and elsewhere.


    Those who are/were mayors, touting their "Great Experience", while IGNORING the PATHETIC STATE of the CIITES THEY GOVERN(ed).


    Decrying Pres.Trump's "Trade War", while IGNORING DECADES of OUTRAGOUSLY UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES from Red China, etal.


    Decrying the BORDER CRISIS as "manufactured", while IGNORING the OBVIOUS FACTS ABOUT IT.


    You know...that kind of thing.
    That sure is an extremist view of the left. Have you always been a radicalized right wing extremist?
    Welcome to the club. You should fit right in:




    The three people who were shot to death in a North Carolina condominium Tuesday were honors students and included a couple who just married two months ago, authorities said today.

    Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, was arrested and is charged with three counts of first-degree murder. He is being held in the Durham County Jail, and the investigation is ongoing, Chapel Hill police said in a news release.



    The massacre of 49 people in New Zealand on Friday highlights the contagious ways in which extreme right ideology and violence have spread in the 21st century — even to a country that had not experienced a mass shooting for more than two decades, and which is rarely associated with the extreme right.
    New Zealand may be thousands of miles from Europe or the United States, but videos of the killer show that he was deeply entrenched in the global far right, a man familiar with the iconography, in-jokes and shibboleths of different extremist groups from across Europe, Australia and North America, as well as a native of the extreme-right ecosystem online.
    A manifesto linked to the accused killer, released through his social media account on the morning of the massacre, suggests its author considered himself a disciple and comrade of white supremacist killers. The suspect, identified in court papers as Brenton Harrison Tarrant of Australia, also hailed President Trump, calling him “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.”

    Coast Guard Officer Arrested And Accused Of Being A 'Domestic Terrorist'

    A U.S. Coast Guard officer stationed in Washington D.C. is accused of being a domestic terrorist. FBI agents arrested Lieutenant Christoper Paul Hasson and seized a stockpile of weapons and ammunition from his home in Silver Spring, Maryland.
    The filings claim he planned to kill politicians and journalists from a list of targets that included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and CNN anchor Don Lemon.*Prosecutors described Hasson as a white nationalist who planned "to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country."
    "The defendant is a domestic terrorist, bent on committing acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct," prosecutors wrote.
    They said that Hasson was inspired by Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed 77 people in a pair of attacks in 2011.
    Hasson was arrested on charges of illegal weapons and drug possession but prosecutors said that those charges are the “the proverbial tip of the iceberg.”



    On Friday, authorities arrested Sayoc, alleging in a criminal complaint that he was responsible for sending at least 13 potential explosive devices to prominent Democratic and media figures across the country in recent days — including Obama, Clinton, Soros, former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr. and Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.). “He was crazed, that’s the best word for him,” said Debra Gureghian, the general manager of New River Pizza and Fresh Kitchen in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., where Sayoc worked for several months. “There was something really off with him.”


    I hate the damn left-wing Liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the Nation, trying to turn the country into a communist state.
    Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the Mainstream Media. But I know these people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people.
    Liberals are a pest, like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather.
    I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go Kill Liberals!




    Jeremy Christian shouted during his arrest after he brutally stabbed two Americans “Kill all Christians, Muslims and Jews. You call it terrorism. I call it Patriotism!”


    “You blacks are killing white people on the streets everyday and raping white women everyday,” Mr. Roof said during his shooting rampage that killed nine African-American churchgoers


    James Alex Fields Jr was charged with second-degree murder, one count of hit-and-run, failure to stop with injury and three counts of malicious wounding. On his social media accounts, Fields “expressed and promoted his belief that white people are superior to other races and peoples; expressed support of the social and racial policies of Adolf Hitler and Nazi-era Germany, including the Holocaust; and espoused violence against African Americans, Jewish people and members of other racial; ethnic and religious groups he perceived to be non-white.”
    Fields is registered as member of Trump's Republican Party.

    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Thanks for showing that Gronkmasterbater can't count. No wonder he voted for Trump and sucks his dick daily. Trump loves the poorly educated.



    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    Let me first off say, this is my first post. I just joined yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gomer View Post
    it is incredible that any person takes these domestic enemies seriously as candidates for anything except the firing squad. unbelievable idiot nation. but...
    Indeed, Gomie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Money View Post
    Changing the subject matter here. Nice try. Do you honestly think 20 candidates should be on the debate stage, when most of them cannot even muster 1%? That's my impression/point here. You seem to be incapable of explaining why we should be allowing candidates registering under 1% should be allowed on a debate stage.
    At this point, I wouldn't exclude any candidate based on polls. Most of the voters have yet to see or hear many of these candidates. IMHO, Biden is currently winning in the polls because of name-recognition (he was VP for eight years). The voters need to see and hear these candidates on stage in a debate setting (even though they're really not debates) and then the polls will make more sense.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by gomer View Post
    it is incredible that any person takes these domestic enemies seriously as candidates for anything except the firing squad. unbelievable idiot nation. but...
    Wow! You'd fit right in with these guys. I hope to God you don't own guns.




    The three people who were shot to death in a North Carolina condominium Tuesday were honors students and included a couple who just married two months ago, authorities said today.

    Craig Stephen Hicks, 46, was arrested and is charged with three counts of first-degree murder. He is being held in the Durham County Jail, and the investigation is ongoing, Chapel Hill police said in a news release.



    The massacre of 49 people in New Zealand on Friday highlights the contagious ways in which extreme right ideology and violence have spread in the 21st century — even to a country that had not experienced a mass shooting for more than two decades, and which is rarely associated with the extreme right.
    New Zealand may be thousands of miles from Europe or the United States, but videos of the killer show that he was deeply entrenched in the global far right, a man familiar with the iconography, in-jokes and shibboleths of different extremist groups from across Europe, Australia and North America, as well as a native of the extreme-right ecosystem online.
    A manifesto linked to the accused killer, released through his social media account on the morning of the massacre, suggests its author considered himself a disciple and comrade of white supremacist killers. The suspect, identified in court papers as Brenton Harrison Tarrant of Australia, also hailed President Trump, calling him “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.”

    Coast Guard Officer Arrested And Accused Of Being A 'Domestic Terrorist'

    A U.S. Coast Guard officer stationed in Washington D.C. is accused of being a domestic terrorist. FBI agents arrested Lieutenant Christoper Paul Hasson and seized a stockpile of weapons and ammunition from his home in Silver Spring, Maryland.
    The filings claim he planned to kill politicians and journalists from a list of targets that included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and CNN anchor Don Lemon.*Prosecutors described Hasson as a white nationalist who planned "to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country."
    "The defendant is a domestic terrorist, bent on committing acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct," prosecutors wrote.
    They said that Hasson was inspired by Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist who killed 77 people in a pair of attacks in 2011.
    Hasson was arrested on charges of illegal weapons and drug possession but prosecutors said that those charges are the “the proverbial tip of the iceberg.”



    On Friday, authorities arrested Sayoc, alleging in a criminal complaint that he was responsible for sending at least 13 potential explosive devices to prominent Democratic and media figures across the country in recent days — including Obama, Clinton, Soros, former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr. and Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.). “He was crazed, that’s the best word for him,” said Debra Gureghian, the general manager of New River Pizza and Fresh Kitchen in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., where Sayoc worked for several months. “There was something really off with him.”


    I hate the damn left-wing Liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the Nation, trying to turn the country into a communist state.
    Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the Mainstream Media. But I know these people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people.
    Liberals are a pest, like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather.
    I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life ain’t worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. Go Kill Liberals!




    Jeremy Christian shouted during his arrest after he brutally stabbed two Americans “Kill all Christians, Muslims and Jews. You call it terrorism. I call it Patriotism!”


    “You blacks are killing white people on the streets everyday and raping white women everyday,” Mr. Roof said during his shooting rampage that killed nine African-American churchgoers


    James Alex Fields Jr was charged with second-degree murder, one count of hit-and-run, failure to stop with injury and three counts of malicious wounding. On his social media accounts, Fields “expressed and promoted his belief that white people are superior to other races and peoples; expressed support of the social and racial policies of Adolf Hitler and Nazi-era Germany, including the Holocaust; and espoused violence against African Americans, Jewish people and members of other racial; ethnic and religious groups he perceived to be non-white.”
    Fields is registered as member of Trump's Republican Party.

    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    The radical Democrat Socialists have only far left, tax raising, open border, sanctuary city, hostile to business, anti Semitic, Socialist candidates with the exception of Sleepy, Creepy Biden who would be in his 80’s in his first term were the American people stupid enough to put this old man into the presidency. They are not..

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    This would be probably be pulled out of the parade anywhere in the US for obscenity...

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    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The radical Democrat Socialists have only far left, tax raising, open border, sanctuary city, hostile to business, anti Semitic, Socialist candidates with the exception of Sleepy, Creepy Biden who would be in his 80’s in his first term were the American people stupid enough to put this old man into the presidency. They are not..
    Well you have NO part of that correct. You even have SOCIALISM wrong--even BERNIE'S version.

    But THANKS for playing.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    what are you talking about?

    what's a 'tolerant left'?
    Tolerant of pooping in city streets.
    Tolerant of open borders and free health care to undocumented non-citizens here illegally paid for by penalizing citizens who've broken no laws.
    Tolerant of open illegal drug use.
    Tolerant of petty crime e.g., shoplifting and car theft.

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