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    Werewolf Immigrants warned about welfare USCIS chief says sponsors will pay back every dollar

    HHhhmmm, they are going to be asking?? lol, what if they say NO!!!, or just say they can't etc etc etc. Just another empty trump threat~bluff??






    Photo by: Ramon Espinosa
    FILE - In this Nov. 25, 2018 file photo, a migrant woman helps carry a handmade U.S. flag up the riverbank at the Mexico-U.S. border after getting past Mexican police at the Chaparral border crossing in Tijuana, Mexico, as a group of migrants tries to reach the U.S. Activists, officials and social workers in Central America were staggered by the idea that U.S. President Donald Trump thinks he will help reduce immigration, by cutting off nearly $500 million in aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador; exactly the opposite will happen, they say. (AP Photo/Ramon Espinosa, File)


    By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, June 14, 2019

    Officers handling legal immigration cases will now warn people that they are under an obligation to support themselves rather than end up on the public dole, under a new policy implemented Friday by acting U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cuccinelli.

    The warning will be issued both to the immigrant and his or her sponsor, who under the law has signed an agreement not to let the immigrant become a public charge.

    In the new warning, UCSIS officers will “remind” sponsors that they can — and now will — be asked to pay back “every dollar” of welfare that the immigrants take.

    “The president has made it a priority to ensure that every individual who seeks to come to the United States is self-sufficient, temporarily or permanently,” Mr. Cuccinelli said in a memo to agency employees.

    It’s the first major public move by Mr. Cuccinelli, who became acting director this week.

    It’s also one of the boldest steps by the agency, which gets less attention that the Border Patrol or deportation officers, but which is nonetheless central to Mr. Trump’s immigration plans.

    That immigrants are supposed to be able to support themselves has long been a part of federal policy, dating back to the very first comprehensive immigration laws enacted in the 1800s.

    But it’s been rarely enforced.

    The Washington Times reported in 2016 that of five major countries for immigration to the U.S., just three people were cited for being public charges in the years from 2013 to 2015. Immigration judges sustained just one of those cases.

    USCIS is also working on new regulations that would expand the cases where migrants could be denied immigration passes or new visas if they become a public burden.

    Under Clinton-era rules, the government only looks at a narrow set of welfare programs when determining if an immigrant has become a public charge. The Trump plan, still a work in progress, would add food stamps, public housing and long-term institutionalized care to the list.

    That plan would save the government nearly $20 billion over a decade, the government argued in its draft proposal.

    Immigrant-rights activists have complained that the rules would make it tougher for poor migrants to gain a foothold in the U.S., effectively giving a leg up to more successful immigrants.
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Wow, I would of thought this would be a hot topic given so many "freedumb" loving ppl here caring so much for this country..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    That immigrants are supposed to be able to support themselves has long been a part of federal policy, dating back to the very first comprehensive immigration laws enacted in the 1800s.

    But it’s been rarely enforced.

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    Nice if they'd all get vetted right now for diseases coming in here...especially showing up now CA and San Antonio, TX.
    Quarantine was mandatory on Ellis Island.
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Nice if they'd all get vetted right now for diseases coming in here...especially showing up now CA and San Antonio, TX.
    Quarantine was mandatory on Ellis Island.
    Machine gun emplacements every 100 feet along the border - manned 24/7 with orders to shoot to kill - would stem the invasion, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shill View Post
    HHhhmmm, they are going to be asking?? lol, what if they say NO!!!, or just say they can't etc etc etc. Just another empty trump threat~bluff??
    Sponsor an illegal, let them sign up for benefits, and find out, Shill.

    "The warning will be issued both to the immigrant and his or her sponsor, who under the law has signed an agreement not to let the immigrant become a public charge. In the new warning, UCSIS officers will “remind” sponsors that they can — and now will — be asked to pay back “every dollar” of welfare that the immigrants take."

    I'll understand if you won't, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    That immigrants are supposed to be able to support themselves has long been a part of federal policy, dating back to the very first comprehensive immigration laws enacted in the 1800s.

    But it’s been rarely enforced.
    Was it ever enforced?? Have you ever found any evidence??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Machine gun emplacements every 100 feet along the border - manned 24/7 with orders to shoot to kill - would stem the invasion, I think.
    Yea, I can see you in a fox hole outside El Paso in your pajamas playing games on your phone waiting for blood............
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shill View Post
    Yea, I can see you in a fox hole outside El Paso in your pajamas playing games on your phone waiting for blood............
    I'd be proud to defend our nation's borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Sponsor an illegal, let them sign up for benefits, and find out, Shill.

    "The warning will be issued both to the immigrant and his or her sponsor, who under the law has signed an agreement not to let the immigrant become a public charge. In the new warning, UCSIS officers will “remind” sponsors that they can — and now will — be asked to pay back “every dollar” of welfare that the immigrants take."

    I'll understand if you won't, of course.
    Like they don't already know that. Perhaps hang a tag on their shirt to always remind them...

    They have not been paying, nor will they ever pay...

    They go to the hospital & get surgery they aint paying, I am, your parents are... Stupid trumpkin wake the fuck up.....
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shill View Post
    Was it ever enforced?? Have you ever found any evidence??
    The evidence was in your OP, Shill.

    Either you didn't read the article Y O U copied and pasted, or you have comprehension issues.

    "three people were cited for being public charges in the years from 2013 to 2015. Immigration judges sustained just one of those cases."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shill View Post
    They have not been paying, nor will they ever pay.
    Who told you that, Shill?

    Have you ever found any evidence?

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    One of the grounds of inadmissibility found in the U.S. immigration laws is that the person is likely to become a “public charge.” (See Immigration and Nationality Act, or I.N.A. § 212, 8 U.S.C. § 1182.) A public charge is someone who receives U.S. government assistance based on financial need.

    As the petitioner and financial sponsor, you will not only need to show that your income and assets are high enough to avoid the immigrant becoming a public charge, but you’ll have to promise to pay the government back if the immigrant ends up claiming certain types of public assistance benefits.

    You’ll see how serious the U.S. government is about wanting your promise of financial support when you fill out the required USCIS Form I-864.

    The form will ask you for specific information about your household size, as well as your income and assets, and require you to attach proof, in the form of tax returns, and documentary evidence of your employment and of any assets being claimed.

    By signing Form I-864, you are entering into an enforceable contract with the United States government. Your obligations under this contract do not end until the immigrant has either:

    • become a U.S. citizen
    • earned 40 work quarters in the U.S. (as defined by the Social Security Administration; this works out to approximately ten years)
    • died, or
    • permanently left the United States.

    Note that divorce does not end at your obligations under the Affidavit of Support.

    As the U.S. sponsor, your assets and income must be at least 125% of the federal Poverty Guidelines in order to show that you can maintain the applying immigrant as well as any other members of your household.

    You might be asked for repayment and ultimately sued by a U.S. government agency from which the immigrant received a mean-tested public benefit such as food stamps, Medicaid, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Supplemental Security Income, or State Child Health Insurance benefits.

    https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/financial-responsibility-sponsor-permanent-resident.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegion View Post

    "three people were cited for being public charges in the years from 2013 to 2015. Immigration judges sustained just one of those cases."
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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