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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    What is the slick new name Bernie gives to his form of government?
    Democratic Socialism

    And, where is this term from?
    The Communist Manifesto

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    Draft of a Communist Confession of Faith - The Principles of Communism

    Chapter 18 - What will be the course of this revolution?

    What will be the course of this revolution? Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. Direct in England, where the proletarians are already a majority of the people. Indirect in France and Germany, where the majority of the people consists not only of proletarians, but also of small peasants and petty bourgeois who are in the process of falling into the proletariat, who are more and more dependent in all their political interests on the proletariat, and who must, therefore, soon adapt to the demands of the proletariat. Perhaps this will cost a second struggle, but the outcome can only be the victory of the proletariat. Democracy would be wholly valueless to the proletariat if it were not immediately used as a means for putting through measures directed against private property and ensuring the livelihood of the proletariat. The main measures, emerging as the necessary result of existing relations, are the following:
    (i) Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.
    (ii) Gradual expropriation of landowners, industrialists, railroad magnates and shipowners, partly through competition by state industry, partly directly through compensation in the form of bonds.
    (iii) Confiscation of the possessions of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.
    (iv) Organization of labor or employment of proletarians on publicly owned land, in factories and workshops, with competition among the workers being abolished and with the factory owners, in so far as they still exist, being obliged to pay the same high wages as those paid by the state.
    (v) An equal obligation on all members of society to work until such time as private property has been completely abolished. Formation of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    (vi) Centralization of money and credit in the hands of the state through a national bank with state capital, and the suppression of all private banks and bankers.
    (vii) Increase in the number of national factories, workshops, railroads, ships; bringing new lands into cultivation and improvement of land already under cultivation – all in proportion to the growth of the capital and labor force at the disposal of the nation.
    (viii) Education of all children, from the moment they can leave their mother’s care, in national establishments at national cost. Education and production together.
    50 Draft of a Communist Confession of Faith
    (ix) Construction, on public lands, of great palaces as communal dwellings for associated groups of citizens engaged in both industry and agriculture and combining in their way of life the advantages of urban and rural conditions while avoiding the one-sidedness and drawbacks of each.
    (x) Destruction of all unhealthy and jerry-built dwellings in urban districts.
    (xi) Equal inheritance rights for children born in and out of wedlock. (xii) Concentration of all means of transportation in the hands of the nation.

    It is impossible, of course, to carry out all these measures at once. But one will always bring others in its wake. Once the first radical attack on private property has been launched, the proletariat will find itself forced to go ever further, to concentrate increasingly in the hands of the state all capital, all agriculture, all transport, all trade. All the foregoing measures are directed to this end; and they will become practicable and feasible, capable of producing their centralizing effects to precisely the degree that the proletariat, through its labor, multiplies the country’s productive forces. Finally, when all capital, all production, all exchange have been brought together in the hands of the nation, private property will disappear of its own accord, money will become superfluous, and production will so expand and man so change that society will be able to slough off whatever of its old economic habits may remain.

    Chapter 24 - How do communists differ from socialists?

    [ Democratic Socialists: ]

    Finally, the third category consists of democratic socialists who favor some of the same measures the communists advocate, as described in Question 18, not as part of the transition to communism, however, but as measures which they believe will be sufficient to abolish the misery and evils of present-day society.

    These democratic socialists are either proletarians who are not yet sufficiently clear about the conditions of the liberation of their class, or they are representatives of the petty bourgeoisie, a class which, prior to the achievement of democracy and the socialist measures to which it gives rise, has many interests in common with the proletariat.

    It follows that, in moments of action, the communists will have to come to an understanding with these democratic socialists, and in general to follow as far as possible a common policy with them – provided that these socialists do not enter into the service of the ruling bourgeoisie and attack the communists.

    It is clear that this form of co-operation in action does not exclude the discussion of differences.

    The entire Manifesto is found here - https://www.marxists.org/archive/mar.../Manifesto.pdf
    Did you watch his video to see what Bernie says it is??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Did he happen to enumerate those "rights" with specificity? Not going to watch the speech, but I bet they are premised on a basic "right" of people who didn't earn something to take it from someone else who did.
    He was out there trying to "enlighten and unite the proletariat".
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Bernie is such a hypocrite. Reciting his Commie credo while owning three homes and living high on the hog.

    Only the young and dumb support his insane ideas.
    Yup. He's one of the "bourgeoisie".
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    He was out there trying to "enlighten and unite the proletariat".
    As long as he ' unites ' more Democrats than Republicans democracy will work for intelligent peace.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Did you watch his video to see what Bernie says it is??
    I've heard his message for the last 40 years. Nothing new here.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    He needs to acknowledge the actual bill of rights first
    Nevaaah! Nevaaah! LOL
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Can somebody link to a transcript of this rather than a link that leads me to a "live video" of some TV channel that nobody watches?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I've heard his message for the last 40 years. Nothing new here.
    So no......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Can somebody link to a transcript of this rather than a link that leads me to a "live video" of some TV channel that nobody watches?
    https://thenewstalkers.com/john-russ...-united-states
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Whataboutism.

    Harris is a ho.
    A mean ho.

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    A lot, however, hasn’t changed. The Vermont senator’s definition of democratic socialism remains the fight for economic freedom — one that ensures health care, a living wage, a full education, housing, and a clean environment.

    “Over 80 years ago, Franklin Delano Roosevelt helped create a government that made transformative progress in protecting the needs of working families. Today, in the second decade of the 21st century, we must take up the unfinished business of the New Deal and carry it to completion,” he said. “This is the unfinished business of the Democratic Party and the vision we must accomplish.”


    https://thenewstalkers.com/john-russ...-united-states
    What's not to like ?
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    It's great all of a sudden seeing the Dems lovin' all things Russia.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What's not to like ?
    Everything.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    ... and to the Working Class. Importation of Third World Labor to replace American Labor is NOT a winning strategy.

    but open borders for unskilled labor is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I hope that he will hammer on how great the economy is doing currently, and therefore how we can afford to help our citizens in various ways to continue the momentum. You KNOW that the Trump-Putin ticket is going to focus on the economy.
    pathetic

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