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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Not really. Post 97? No link, just a quote/paraphrase. I copied the entire text of your quote into Google and it came back with bupkes.

    In other words, you have absolutely no proof that the Clinton campaign sought out, paid for, or otherwise solicited adverse info on Trump from a foreign source. None.

    BTW, Trump is POTUS, not "Hillary."
    Funny, I just came up with pages of info by googling 'Trevor Noah Hillary'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    For paying a foreign interest to gather "intel" on her political opponent. I'm pretty sure we've been clear. Paying a foreign company to gather questionable intel on your opponent seems to be okay in your eyes if the person doing the paying is a Democrat. Just sitting and listening to them speak and not paying anything? Not so much, but only if the listener is somebody you hate a bunch.
    One more time for you illiterate dumbfucks:

    “While it is illegal to accept contributions from foreign nationals for political campaigns (as Trump suggested he would do), “paying a foreign national fair market value for opposition research is generally not illegal,” as former chief counsel for the Federal Election Commission Lawrence Noble told The Washington Post. “It is considered a commercial transaction, which is not a contribution.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...he-2020/223924

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Funny, I just came up with pages of info by googling 'Trevor Noah Hillary'
    I'm sure you did. And I bet that every single one of them is some specious RW blog crap, with no actual information that has been verified.

    You are the perfect Trumpanzee! Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'm sure you did. And I bet that every single one of them is some specious RW blog crap, with no actual information that has been verified.

    You are the perfect Trumpanzee! Congratulations!
    You have any grand kids running around there to help you google those 3 words so you can see the appearance of Hillary on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah (NOT a conservative show)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Funny, I just came up with pages of info by googling 'Trevor Noah Hillary'
    I googled "Loch Ness monster" and got over 13 million hits on google.

    Here's a tip: getting hits on google does not make it true.

    How about you do what you have been asked repeatedly: provide a reputable and credible source for your claims and assertions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I googled "Loch Ness monster" and got over 13 million hits on google.

    Here's a tip: getting hits on google does not make it true.

    How about you do what you have been asked repeatedly: provide a reputable and credible source for your claims and assertions.
    Oh my gosh. And I thought that I was computer illiterate.

    Who's talking about hits???????
    This is a simple google seardch for words like 'Hillary Trevor Noah November 2, 2017'
    or maybe 'Hillary Trevor Noah it's part of what happens in a campaign where you get information'
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    Put Trump in the thread header,and everytime.
    Conservatives,start talk about Hillary,Obama,or a blow job.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Seeing how the thread title was half a sentence, one sort of must look to see who the author is making a "difference" with.
    Voila! It's Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Seeing how the thread title was half a sentence, one sort of must look to see who the author is making a "difference" with.
    Voila! It's Hillary.
    quit yammering dope

    what campaign law did Hillary break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    One more time for you illiterate dumbfucks:

    “While it is illegal to accept contributions from foreign nationals for political campaigns (as Trump suggested he would do), “paying a foreign national fair market value for opposition research is generally not illegal,” as former chief counsel for the Federal Election Commission Lawrence Noble told The Washington Post. “It is considered a commercial transaction, which is not a contribution.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...he-2020/223924
    He said he wouldn't object to a meeting for information, not that he would accept donations. You can't even read your own article. You really need help. The idea that somebody can simply pay somebody to work on your behalf to hire a foreign national to gather "intel" from Russia and other unsavory governments on your opponent and it is okay because Democrat, but just talking to somebody about it isn't because Republican is deliberate unabashed hypocrisy. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    He said he wouldn't object to a meeting for information, not that he would accept donations. You can't even read your own article. You really need help. The idea that somebody can simply pay somebody to work on your behalf to hire a foreign national to gather "intel" from Russia and other unsavory governments on your opponent and it is okay because Democrat, but just talking to somebody about it isn't because Republican is deliberate unabashed hypocrisy. That is all.
    Once he reads it, dumbfuck, it’s accepted. Once he meets with them, it’s soliciting, dumbfuck

    I quoted the Chief Counsel for the FEC, moron. Argue with them. I merely gave you the law, which you fail to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Once he reads it, dumbfuck, it’s accepted. Once he meets with them, it’s soliciting, dumbfuck

    I quoted the Chief Counsel for the FEC, moron. Argue with them. I merely gave you the law, which you fail to understand.
    So, once Hillary read the information she got from the people she hired to go and seek it from those unsavory sources was it soliciting?

    Seriously, I simply stated what it said in your article, you should read it. While it is a editorial, the reality is; saying you'd listen to somebody speak isn't anything more than listening, though you personally are willing to accept somebody that actually pays to hire somebody to go and seek out the information for them from the people among the same unsavory sources.

    The reality is all I hear from you is hypocrisy. It's all you have. Hold it tight because it will only work for a short period and there is a long election cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    So, once Hillary read the information she got from the people she hired to go and seek it from those unsavory sources was it soliciting?

    Seriously, I simply stated what it said in your article, you should read it. While it is a editorial, the reality is saying you'd listen to somebody speak it isn't anything more than listening, though you personally are willing to accept somebody that actually pays to hire somebody to go and seek out the information for them from the people among the same unsavory sources.

    The reality is all I hear from you is hypocrisy. It's all you have. Hold it tight because it will only work for a short period and there is a long election cycle.
    I can’t fix your illiteracy, stupid shit. I can only keep providing you the law. Find some literate 10 year old to read it and explain it to you.

    “While it is illegal to accept contributions from foreign nationals for political campaigns (as Trump suggested he would do), “paying a foreign national fair market value for opposition research is generally not illegal,” as former chief counsel for the Federal Election Commission Lawrence Noble told The Washington Post. “It is considered a commercial transaction, which is not a contribution.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...he-2020/223924

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I can’t fix your illiteracy, stupid shit. I can only keep providing you the law. Find some literate 10 year old to read it and explain it to you.

    “While it is illegal to accept contributions from foreign nationals for political campaigns (as Trump suggested he would do), “paying a foreign national fair market value for opposition research is generally not illegal,” as former chief counsel for the Federal Election Commission Lawrence Noble told The Washington Post. “It is considered a commercial transaction, which is not a contribution.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...he-2020/223924
    Per the FEC and the legislation this guy is misrepresenting a Contribution can be of different types, but speaking to you isn't one of them. All of them are directly about something of monetary value.

    https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-...contributions/

    You, as I've said, conflate contribution with a simple meeting, and so is the person offering up that nonsense in the article. Per the same legislation a Contribution is not somebody talking to you, it is somebody giving you money or gifts of value (plane tickets, etc.) In your nonsensical reality if he paid them to come to the room it would be cool. If it is the source that makes it "illegal" then paying them doesn't make it better or everybody in DC would be handing a nickle to everybody they met with. Paying somebody to do something illegal on your behalf is the same as taking the action yourself. So, if hearing the information is illegal in itself, then paying to get it is also illegal.

    If hearing the information isn't illegal, and paying for it isn't illegal then we have wasted a ton of money only to find out that Trump didn't break any laws at all, maybe even nor did HillBillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Per the FEC and the legislation this guy is misrepresenting a Contribution can be of different types, but speaking to you isn't one of them. All of them are directly about something of monetary value.

    https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-...contributions/

    You, as I've said, conflate contribution with a simple meeting, and so is the person offering up that nonsense in the article. Per the same legislation a Contribution is not somebody talking to you, it is somebody giving you money or gifts of value (plane tickets, etc.) In your nonsensical reality if he paid them to come to the room it would be cool. If it is the source that makes it "illegal" then paying them doesn't make it better or everybody in DC would be handing a nickle to everybody they met with. Paying somebody to do something illegal on your behalf is the same as taking the action yourself. So, if hearing the information is illegal in itself, then paying to get it is also illegal.

    If hearing the information isn't illegal, and paying for it isn't illegal then we have wasted a ton of money only to find out that Trump didn't break any laws at all, nor did HillBillary.
    As usual, simple English escapes you. Tell me which of the following words befuddle you. I’ll try to dumb it down for you.

    “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election,“ wrote Ellen Weintraub, chairwoman of the FEC. “This is not a novel concept.“

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