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    Default What is the difference between Trump saying he'd accept foreign information

    on political rivals last Wednesday and Trump directly asking Russia to find Clinton's Emails back in 2016?

    Actually not much of a difference, except this time Trump is putting the request right out there, sending a public invitation to all his autocratic buddies, openly inviting foreign powers to interfere in our election for his behalf

    And why not, Trump cares little for respecting historical institutions, he knows his GOP lackeys don't have the backbone to say anything, he's assured billy Barr ain't going to care, and he has a whole media network that will not only defend him but will quickly portray any effort to expose say North Korea's involvement as a witch hunt

    The Democrats ought to immediately pass legislation making it illegal to accept any kind of assistence from any foreign nation in our elections and quickly forward it to Mitch, put the Senate invertebrates on the spot

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    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.
    Not a lot of "profiles of courage" there, they saw what happens to anyone who steps out of line, or the way McCain was treated even after he died, not quite the party of Roosevelt, Ike, or even Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.
    Welcome to their REALITY. And I guess whether he stands up in front of a crowd of 10,000 or they approach him is no different? Both are ILLEGAL. Except PEOPLE were charged with asking for Russian help and people PROVIDING it. Just not Trump--yet!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Welcome to their REALITY. And I guess whether he stands up in front of a crowd of 10,000 or they approach him is no different? Both are ILLEGAL. Except PEOPLE were charged with asking for Russian help and people PROVIDING it. Just not Trump--yet!!
    Who was charged with asking for Russian help? List them. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.
    Same here. Our "real" enemies are Muslims, illegal immigrants, Iran, and anyone else we can convince ppl are bad so that the military-industrial complex will get billions more in contracts for weapons and walls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Same here. Our "real" enemies are Muslims, illegal immigrants, Iran, and anyone else we can convince ppl are bad so that the military-industrial complex will get billions more in contracts for weapons and walls.
    I guess I should not be surprised that the exact same people who defended sado-sexual torture at Abu Ghraib, and who spent message board careers demonizing Muslims and black people (they only vote to get free stuff!) would eagerly commit treason by begging the KGB to help them win American elections.

    Once a teabagger commits to unprincipled and unethical behavior, there might be no end to it.

    One thing jpp dot com provides is an unfiltered look into the black-hearted soul of movement conservatism. An utterly repulsive experience, but one in which we should bear witness too nonetheless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.
    Yeah, the leg humping moron doesn't want to admit that the Clinton campaign and the DNC hired a foreign agent to go to Russian agents to dig up dirt on their opponent and pretend that Russia was 'coordinating' with their opponents campaign. I mean, that never would have dawned on the dishonest moron above either. Right moron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Yeah, the leg humping moron doesn't want to admit that the Clinton campaign and the DNC hired a foreign agent to go to Russian agents to dig up dirt on their opponent and pretend that Russia was 'coordinating' with their opponents campaign. I mean, that never would have dawned on the dishonest moron above either. Right moron?
    Based on what Dumber Domer is saying, Trump should have said he would have given them $50 for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Based on what Dumber Domer is saying, Trump should have said he would have given them $50 for the information.


    You still don’t get it, you fucking moron.

    How does an illiterate cunt of your level even make it through the day?


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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    You still don’t get it, you fucking moron.

    How does an illiterate cunt of your level even make it through the day?

    Oh I get it.

    If Trump had paid the Russians for dirt on Hillary using a law firm as a cut out who then hired a foreign national to do it, you would have had no problem with it right? All legal?

    So in 2020, all Trump has to do in order to get dirt on his opponent is the following

    1) Hire a law firm
    2) Law firm hires a foreign national
    3) The foreign national goes to a foreign country to get dirt
    4) Log it as "legal services"
    5) Use it as a predicate for an FBI investigation
    6) Get a FISA warrant to spy on the campaign

    All legal and fine according to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I never even actually imagined it was ever possible that the Republican Party would beg the KGB, the Kremlin, and Russian state security services to aid them, to collude with them, and to collaborate in winning an American election.

    It would have never dawned on me that it was even remotely possible.
    Their dying demographic and crass fear /hate stoking media made it slightly foreseeable. The white "silent majority" saw
    the state as its defender against the barbarians at the gate and it did (and still does) operate in that way. But as their numbers dwindle
    relative to other races, classes, and age, they are consistently losing elections and the generally accepted set of social mores
    do not square with their old time views. Seeing too many women and black and latinos in power, seeing those people
    getting good jobs and buying better cars and houses, using English better than they do, scares the shit out of them.
    The solution to THEIR mental problems? Blame the government for having failed them. Our government becomes the enemy and Russia becomes their friend.

    Change happens. They can't stand it. Trump offers to roll back the clock on change. It's laughable.

    We will destroy them. Or they will just all fucking die. Either way we win.

    I never foresaw a merit based society scaring the shit out of whites this much.

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    Hillary already said that she and her lawyers and the DNC paid for foreign info.
    She did a lot more than simply listen to a caller to see if it sounded legitimate before contacting the authorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Hillary already said that she and her lawyers and the DNC paid for foreign info.
    She did a lot more than simply listen to a caller to see if it sounded legitimate before contacting the authorities.
    “While it is illegal to accept contributions from foreign nationals for political campaigns (as Trump suggested he would do), “paying a foreign national fair market value for opposition research is generally not illegal,” as former chief counsel for the Federal Election Commission Lawrence Noble told The Washington Post. “It is considered a commercial transaction, which is not a contribution.”

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...he-2020/223924

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Hillary already said that she and her lawyers and the DNC paid for foreign info.
    She did a lot more than simply listen to a caller to see if it sounded legitimate before contacting the authorities.
    Wrong of course, The Dems sent an English agent to Russia to find out what it could about Trump and Russian deals. What he found shocked him and he told the FBI what he found. That is above board and honorable, And Steele was not representing any nation.
    There is no benefit to a foreign nation in the Dems oppo research. In Trump's case, the Russians worked with him for mother Russia benefit. While the Russian hacking industry was helpful to Trump. its real purpose was to interfere in our elections calling the whole system into question. It was also to get a president elected who Putin could control.
    Those are not the same things, not even close.

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