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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You might want to inform some of your more disturbed fellow (R)s here that the same is true of those of us on the other side of the political rainbow. It seems that there are very few true conservatives left any more in the (R) party. They were labeled traitors and RINOs and kicked to the curb for not worshiping the shiny new emperor and his shiny new clothes.

    Both political parties prey on fear -- but yours does most of all. Fear of other, fear of the future, fear of difference, fear of losing power, fear fear fear. When I was an 7-yo girl, crouching under her classroom desk during yet another nuclear attack drill, I decided that I was going to stop being afraid of the stupid adults who kept telling us that Russia was going to bomb us into atoms. I just knew that over there was some 7-yo Russian girl fearing that WE were going to bomb HER into atoms. I've never wavered from being extremely skeptical when stupid "adults" are telling me to fear this thing and that thing. (D)s do it too, only not as bad as you guys.

    Wouldn't it be great if we'd just stop listening to the stupid adults and decide for ourselves where the truth is, and who/what/when to be worried?



    This post though is just another assumption, and one of the simplest ways to try to train your mind away from reality and fit your thought within the simpler boundaries of propaganda. When people try to fit others within these boundaries is usually when they go awry. The color of the jersey doesn't necessarily control the thought of the personality.
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    What is the difference between a "true conservative" and today's conservative?

    What's the difference between a republican and a conservative?

    Can you give an example of an issue where liberals prey on fear?

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    Republicans have gone fascist.
    Democrats have lost their mind and balls
    We need a American Socialist Party
    AM I, I AM's,AM I.
    What day is Michaelmas on?

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    Easy one. People who over and over, vote against their own interests and for the wealthy can be thought of as not too bright. The trickle-down economic philosophies have morphed into Trump's tinkle down and more tax breaks for the wealthy. Gutting banking regulations was done because the reds love the people and know bankers are fair and honest. Corporations know when the environment needs protection, It is not now, maybe not forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    What is the difference between a "true conservative" and today's conservative?

    What's the difference between a republican and a conservative?

    Can you give an example of an issue where liberals prey on fear?
    You meant to address this to Damo, right? He's the one making distinctions between conservatives, real conservatives, and Republicans. From here they all look pretty much alike.

    I think liberals beat the Fear Drums too sometimes. Most of that is aimed at making us worrying that the more (R)s are in office, the closer to fascism we will get. They warn us that voting for (R)s could mean roll-backs on rights and freedoms presently enjoyed by ppl of color, LGBT, women, non-Xtians, etc. There is some validity to those fears, but overall I think it is often exaggerated in order to get donations and to get ppl to go vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You meant to address this to Damo, right? He's the one making distinctions between conservatives, real conservatives, and Republicans. From here they all look pretty much alike.

    I think liberals beat the Fear Drums too sometimes. Most of that is aimed at making us worrying that the more (R)s are in office, the closer to fascism we will get. They warn us that voting for (R)s could mean roll-backs on rights and freedoms presently enjoyed by ppl of color, LGBT, women, non-Xtians, etc. There is some validity to those fears, but overall I think it is often exaggerated in order to get donations and to get ppl to go vote.
    It absolutely is, but I think Trump and his supporters have created a new culture of facts meaning nothing. We all know that politicians in both parties lie, but none have lied so often as Trump. He has defined deviancy down. Obama's supporters didn't like when he lied, but they felt he was still more good than bad. Trump's supporters either don't care when he lies, or they think his lying is good because it gets things done. This new culture of truth not being important will lead us to Fascism, no question. Unless Trump is defeated and the people are shown that liars don't always win.

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    Telling a lie or exaggerating is a part of politics. Being a liar and telling lies as a language is something different. Trump speaks lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You meant to address this to Damo, right? He's the one making distinctions between conservatives, real conservatives, and Republicans. From here they all look pretty much alike.

    I think liberals beat the Fear Drums too sometimes. Most of that is aimed at making us worrying that the more (R)s are in office, the closer to fascism we will get. They warn us that voting for (R)s could mean roll-backs on rights and freedoms presently enjoyed by ppl of color, LGBT, women, non-Xtians, etc. There is some validity to those fears, but overall I think it is often exaggerated in order to get donations and to get ppl to go vote.
    I was referring to your comment "It seems that there are very few true conservatives left any more in the (R) party. " Just wanted your take on what the differences were.

    "Both political parties prey on fear" "roll-backs on rights and freedoms presently enjoyed by ppl of color, LGBT, women, non-Xtians, etc"

    I guess I don't see it as fear when it's true. Telling the truth about what the racist right is going to do when in office isn't exactly equal to the racist right fear mongering…..

    Lying on minorities by using fear is a completely different ballgame.

    You are witnessing today what happens when republicans take office. That should alarm everyone. President Obama warned us what would happen if they took office......and he was spot on.

    Looking at it from a different view, I just can't equate the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    I was referring to your comment "It seems that there are very few true conservatives left any more in the (R) party. " Just wanted your take on what the differences were.

    "Both political parties prey on fear" "roll-backs on rights and freedoms presently enjoyed by ppl of color, LGBT, women, non-Xtians, etc"

    I guess I don't see it as fear when it's true. Telling the truth about what the racist right is going to do when in office isn't exactly equal to the racist right fear mongering…..

    Lying on minorities by using fear is a completely different ballgame.

    You are witnessing today what happens when republicans take office. That should alarm everyone. President Obama warned us what would happen if they took office......and he was spot on.

    Looking at it from a different view, I just can't equate the two.
    I wouldn't be on the left if I did not agree that although both sides do fear-mongering, ours has much more validity than theirs does.

    To me a true conservative is one who is not interested in using the power of the govt. to enforce what some think of as morality. They tend to keep their religious views private. They are not apt to jump into bed with evangelists, nor to beat the drums of war. They abhor a police state. They try to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law. They do not make nice with our enemies in order to further their own agenda and cement their own power.

    I think they are mostly extinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I wouldn't be on the left if I did not agree that although both sides do fear-mongering, ours has much more validity than theirs does.

    To me a true conservative is one who is not interested in using the power of the govt. to enforce what some think of as morality. They tend to keep their religious views private. They are not apt to jump into bed with evangelists, nor to beat the drums of war. They abhor a police state. They try to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law. They do not make nice with our enemies in order to further their own agenda and cement their own power.

    I think they are mostly extinct.
    so what are libs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Young Americans Consider GOP ‘The Dumb Party,’
    Unfortunately, most young Americans don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    How so? Liberal countries have higher living standards than conservative ones.
    you mean its more expensive to live in liberal countries......liberal states have the same problem.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Easy one. People who over and over, vote against their own interests and for the wealthy can be thought of as not too bright.
    California is proof of that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I can't imagine why anyone would think this.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5481563/re...ive-americans/
    That's easy; they have been indoctrinated. A must watch video to understand:

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
    Author: Booker T. Washington



    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I can't imagine why anyone would think this.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5481563/re...ive-americans/
    Another reason:

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Actually, the reason America has been moving to the Left is because people get more liberal as they mature.
    But yeah, being educated does make people more liberal too. Conservatives tend to be uneducated and have a lower IQ.
    How is America moving to the left? There is nothing "educated" about our college grads these days.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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